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IFF
01-24-2008, 03:06 PM
i was looking through the magazine i get every month (Procycling) and in the News section of it, it had a photo of a guy and his girlfriend. it did not state the guys age but it did say the girlfriend was 16. I did some calculation by cross reference and calculated the guy was 27

i find this creepy and a bit odd. anyone else agree?

this guy is 11 years older then the girl and the girl is still a school girl (i assume)

i checked out wikipedia and they have since broken up though

SolarDeath
01-24-2008, 03:11 PM
I think that would be legally considered pedophilia unless they never had sex (which they probably did). :|

enkahootz
01-24-2008, 03:31 PM
says to me that the guy is a sad ****. and is deficient in one manner or another to the point that he cannot find someone his own age.

anyone care to bet against the little girl having had no daddy while growing up?

IFF
01-24-2008, 04:50 PM
says to me that the guy is a sad ****. and is deficient in one manner or another to the point that he cannot find someone his own age.

anyone care to bet against the little girl having had no daddy while growing up?

it was probably through her father that they met (or at least because of her father they met)

her father is a cycling race organiser, the [ex]boyfriend is a cyclist

Feenix566
01-24-2008, 05:05 PM
That's pathetic.

optimus
01-24-2008, 05:08 PM
Would it be pathetic if she was 18?

Jellybeans
01-24-2008, 05:11 PM
No but two years makes a big difference when you're a teenager.

Feenix566
01-24-2008, 05:13 PM
Would it be pathetic if she was 18?

yes.

I'm 28. I can't imagine dating an 18 year old. There's a HUGE difference in maturity levels. It happens somewhere between 20 and 25.

optimus
01-24-2008, 05:22 PM
yes.

I'm 28. I can't imagine dating an 18 year old. There's a HUGE difference in maturity levels. It happens somewhere between 20 and 25.

Well I can't imagine dating one either. (A roll in the hay is a different story though.)

Baboon
01-24-2008, 06:13 PM
That's just wrong. As much as I'd like to call the guy my hero, 16 year old girls should be left to 16 year old boys.

That said, I'm 35 and I'd date a 21 year old if I were single. She's got to be 21 though so she can drink. I like me a drinking buddy.

Rayney
01-24-2008, 07:17 PM
yes.

I'm 28. I can't imagine dating an 18 year old. There's a HUGE difference in maturity levels. It happens somewhere between 20 and 25.

I was 18 when I met my husband...he was 27. The only age difference problem we've had is that he prefers to stay home and I like going out - thankfully I have awesome girlfriends I go out with when hes not up to it. We're now 26 and 35...and happily married.

Adi
01-24-2008, 11:53 PM
Sixteen to me and twenty seven is weird and wrong.
An eleven year difference is okay but not when any party is sixteen.

Tally
01-25-2008, 12:49 AM
My recent ex was 10 years older than me however when we first got together I was 23 and he was 33 and that's quite a bit different than being 16. I wouldn't mind being casually involved with someone with that big of an age difference again but I highly doubt I would ever enter into any sort of serious relationship like that again.

Canadiense
01-25-2008, 12:05 PM
Well, gosh... As "wrong" as it appears, I think it's every man's fantasy to f*ck a school girl. Perhaps this apparent resistance and disgust is just a defence mechanism caused by anxiety.

Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the undesirable impulses or desires without becoming consciously aware of them; attributing one's own unacknowledged unacceptable/unwanted thoughts and emotions to another; includes severe prejudice, severe jealousy, hypervigilance to external danger, and "injustice collecting". It is shifting one's unacceptable thoughts, feelings and impulses within oneself onto someone else, such that those same thoughts, feelings, beliefs and motivations as perceived as being possessed by the other.

Maybe I'm dead wrong... But I think sexual tension, such as what an older man feels toward a very young girl, can cause anxiety, fear of one own's impulses. Why do we fear them? It's cultural, obviously. In the old times, it was normal to marry off girls as early as 12-14. In certain regions of the world, the moment a girl becomes fertile, it would be quite normal that she begin sexual activity...

It is seen as primitive and barbaric in the Western culture, but nature versus nurture is tough to resolve. Fact is, nature would have it so that a girl is ready for sexual activity from as early as 12-13 (when she gets her first period). As far as her intellectual development at that age, I'm not going to argue that matching a 13 year old brain with a 27 year old brain, for example, is ludicrous. I cannot completely agree that this is something to be judged so strictly, I'd say the man in question definitely has no qualms about his natural instincts, and that such relationships are mainly based on sexual instinct. Which is why they don't last. Do I think the guy is a jerk? I don't know why, but I just can't find it in myself to judge people for such choices. It's not like he killed someone. It's just sex.

What would I say if it were my own daughter?:) Probably nothing, aside from "use protection". People will do as they please anyway. The less of a taboo it seems, the less they'll want it so badly, because reality would sink in soon enough anyway.

Feenix566
01-25-2008, 12:31 PM
Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the undesirable impulses or desires without becoming consciously aware of them; attributing one's own unacknowledged unacceptable/unwanted thoughts and emotions to another; includes severe prejudice, severe jealousy, hypervigilance to external danger, and "injustice collecting". It is shifting one's unacceptable thoughts, feelings and impulses within oneself onto someone else, such that those same thoughts, feelings, beliefs and motivations as perceived as being possessed by the other.


Maybe some of us are looking for more than just a hole to stick our tools into.

Gibson
01-25-2008, 12:36 PM
I feel bad enough for being 23 and liking an 18 year-old... :hmm:

Canadiense
01-25-2008, 01:02 PM
Maybe some of us are looking for more than just a hole to stick our tools into.

I realize that Feenix. I am not sure that people understand where their judgement is coming from. I'm not an expert, but I know what I know. And I know for a fact that the younger the woman, the more attractive she is. No matter how old the male might be - you cannot deny the natural sexual tension. Think "lolita". There's nothing wrong in acgnowledging this attraction. Whether you actually engage in sexual relations with a very young girl - is your business.

The limit does exist - the line is drawn at the age preceeding puberty. When puberty hits tho' - all bets are off. Which would explain why my father was so anxious and upset when he found out I got my first period.:)

It is desirable that people find partners within their own age group... But common, this is an imperfect world, judgemental attitudes will not stop certain men from exploiting younger women for sexual pleasure, that's nature, man dominates/woman is submissive, man is predatory/woman is pray..;)

I don't excuse it nor condone it. I understand the human instinct and justify this behaviour in natural laws and evolution.

fairlyconserv
01-25-2008, 03:17 PM
Just b/c a teen girl is 'pretty' does not mean that all or most MEN want to shag her. I've discussed this at length over the yrs in various venues, and most guys the age of 30 and over are not sexually attracted to teen girls. I can look at an 17, or 18 yr old teen boy, and think he has a nice build or is cute, but that doesn't equate to wanting to jump his bones. I'm pretty impressed(and slightly surprised) with the mens' responses here.

Snouter
01-25-2008, 04:34 PM
Can someone explain why spoiling a chick's virginity by some stupid 16 year old male is better than a 27 year old male doing the dirty work? I think this concept has middle eastern religious origins of psychological insecurity in the sense that many younger males will think that they have no chance with the slut since an experienced dude was with her.

Jellybeans
01-25-2008, 05:57 PM
I feel bad enough for being 23 and liking an 18 year-old... :hmm:

Ah that's silly.

SolarDeath
01-25-2008, 09:46 PM
Well, gosh... As "wrong" as it appears, I think it's every man's fantasy to f*ck a school girl. Perhaps this apparent resistance and disgust is just a defence mechanism caused by anxiety.

Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the undesirable impulses or desires without becoming consciously aware of them; attributing one's own unacknowledged unacceptable/unwanted thoughts and emotions to another; includes severe prejudice, severe jealousy, hypervigilance to external danger, and "injustice collecting". It is shifting one's unacceptable thoughts, feelings and impulses within oneself onto someone else, such that those same thoughts, feelings, beliefs and motivations as perceived as being possessed by the other.

Maybe I'm dead wrong... But I think sexual tension, such as what an older man feels toward a very young girl, can cause anxiety, fear of one own's impulses. Why do we fear them? It's cultural, obviously. In the old times, it was normal to marry off girls as early as 12-14. In certain regions of the world, the moment a girl becomes fertile, it would be quite normal that she begin sexual activity...

It is seen as primitive and barbaric in the Western culture, but nature versus nurture is tough to resolve. Fact is, nature would have it so that a girl is ready for sexual activity from as early as 12-13 (when she gets her first period). As far as her intellectual development at that age, I'm not going to argue that matching a 13 year old brain with a 27 year old brain, for example, is ludicrous. I cannot completely agree that this is something to be judged so strictly, I'd say the man in question definitely has no qualms about his natural instincts, and that such relationships are mainly based on sexual instinct. Which is why they don't last. Do I think the guy is a jerk? I don't know why, but I just can't find it in myself to judge people for such choices. It's not like he killed someone. It's just sex.

What would I say if it were my own daughter?:) Probably nothing, aside from "use protection". People will do as they please anyway. The less of a taboo it seems, the less they'll want it so badly, because reality would sink in soon enough anyway.


Really it wouldn't be surprising if many guys secretly did want school girls you see it every where even in our modern society where it's supposedly frowned upon. How many "naughty school girl" fetishes have you seen in various adult magazines? Not to mention the increasingly lower age for sexualization in females more so than males. I can't tell you how many times I've walked into the children's clothing department and seen things like thongs for 6 year olds etc. Even that Dutch political party is advocating the age of consent to be lowered to 12 and most likely want it to be eliminated all together eventually. Even if you look up human beauty on wikipedia it has this to say:
The determinants of female physical attractiveness include those aspects that display health and fitness for reproduction and sustenance. These include correlates of fertility such as youth.....

Since a woman's reproductive value declines steadily with age after twenty, evolutionary selection has favored men who are attracted to youth in a mate. One study across 37 cultures showed men desire, on average, a woman 2.5 years younger than themselves for a wife with men in Nigeria and Zambia at the far extreme, desiring their wives to be 6.5 to 7.5 years younger. As men age, they also desire a larger age gap from their mates.[12]

This preference for youth has also led to a preference of neotenic and youthful-appearing features. Full lips, clear, smooth skin, clear eyes, lustrous hair, and good muscle tone are all viewed as attractive in women.


But this seems to be more in the category of Ephebophilia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia) rather than pedophilia.

tinhorn
01-26-2008, 01:59 PM
Why would we even think their relationship was serious? How many relationships are mostly about nookie?

The age of consent in my state is 16, so not all high school girls are jail bait. Dumb as posts, yes, but not illegal.

observe this
01-26-2008, 06:27 PM
It all depends on the two people involved. Their maturity, likes/dislikes, things in common, intelligence, education, how comfortable they are with each other. If they are both happy with the situation what's the problem? Still, if it was my daughter I'd want to meet this guy and get to know him. If he did not like that then that would be a red flag right there.

Adi
01-26-2008, 07:32 PM
No way on God's green earth would I allow any 16 year old daughter of mine to date a 27 year old. That guy would have to find a woman closer to his own age. I couldnt care less about the supposed maturity level of a 16 year old its just not right.

ThreeDollaBills
01-26-2008, 07:59 PM
I think it's kind of stupid that especially because she could find someone her age to date. If you really think about it she's more than likely not mature enough to be with person of that age. I was just reading that and it reminded me of one of my classmates. She's 18 years of age and her "boyfriend" is 36, almost 37, and she's pregnant with his child.

Judy
01-27-2008, 04:34 AM
i think it's normal. however, the girl must be grown-up at least. so many girls would like to date so-called maturities, 'cause those elder men look like more conscientious and richer than those who just leave their colleges and enter this society. we all know truth always being buried in surface.

fairlyconserv
01-27-2008, 09:14 AM
Did they meet on myspace?

enkahootz
01-27-2008, 01:28 PM
Can someone explain why spoiling a chick's virginity by some stupid 16 year old male is better than a 27 year old male doing the dirty work? I think this concept has middle eastern religious origins of psychological insecurity in the sense that many younger males will think that they have no chance with the slut since an experienced dude was with her.

I just feel that it's likely a situation of the 36 y.o. guy taking advantage of the naivety of the 16 y.o. girl, in this everything-sexual world...

Canadiense
01-28-2008, 09:35 AM
Just b/c a teen girl is 'pretty' does not mean that all or most MEN want to shag her. I've discussed this at length over the yrs in various venues, and most guys the age of 30 and over are not sexually attracted to teen girls. I can look at an 17, or 18 yr old teen boy, and think he has a nice build or is cute, but that doesn't equate to wanting to jump his bones. I'm pretty impressed(and slightly surprised) with the mens' responses here.

A good example would be the story in "American Beauty", Lester Burnham's (Kevin Spacey) middle age crisis and lust for Angela (Mena Souvari). It just so happens Lester's conscience prevails over his impulse, the moment that he discovers Angela is not the experienced girl she portrayed herself to be. She reminds him of his own daughter, and he can't carry on...

The sense of "wrong" only comes with a serious deliberation within oneself, and a realization of the moral implications, and consequences. Thus we belittle men who do this, for they seem disconnected from reality, they are ego-centric and cannot control the primitive aspects of their humanity. However...There are some very intelligent men out there who had no qualms about seducing a very young girl, think Woody Allen. His psychology must be extremely complex. I suppose he justifies his actions in nature, being a free spirit in pursuit of happiness etc. So I say, who's to judge these apparently strange couplings? One cannot meddle in other people's choices when it comes to age differences - for it would be a very loooooong list. And why judge anyone who had given their full consent? I don't believe in that. Some people will not evaluate the conequences, but would rather learn the hard way. And some will find happiness, even when it appears "wrong" to the rest of us.

So, live and let live.

grimrebuke
01-28-2008, 05:47 PM
I don't know why it is hard for so many to imagine being attracted to someone in their mid to late teens. If you think about it, one of the aspects of becoming sexually-aware is beginning to notice the opposite sex. It isn't hard to imagine that your mind gets programmed with ideals of the opposite sex based on the members you are exposed to during that awakening. I think this is also why some women are attracted to much older men. At the point where they are beginning to become sexually-aware, guys their own age aren't there yet. At they are more likely to be exposed to guys who are either old enough to work at the places they visit, friends of their family, or teachers than they are guys 2-3 years older than them. And I have two female friends in their early to mid-20's who have both told me they will never sleep with another guy under 30. This seems to be a sexual maturity thing where younger guys are still trying to have sex with women to impress their male buddies.
So, part of this is culture, part of this is maturity (women 10 years younger than I are usually more mature than I am, I'm sad to admit), and part of this zealous response is this weird, infantization of Americans. There was a point where a woman of 20 who was unmarried had no real chance of marriage, and being pregnant at 15 or 16 was not at all unusual. Biologically we are still the same critters, but socially we've kept raising the age of responsibility. Has anyone considered that maybe one of the reasons we have such a high divorce rate is that, by the time we do get married, we have an indoctrinated sense of relationships as temporary? We started with arranged marriages at 14 to 16, sometimes younger. Then we socially evolved to high-school sweethearts getting married after they graduated. Then it was going to college to meet someone. Now it is meeting someone after you've graduated college and entered into your career. So now you've spent a whole additional 10 years of your developing life concentrating on yourself and intentionally avoiding serious emotional commitments. And we are surprised that people don't stay married?

optimus
01-28-2008, 06:00 PM
Very interesting observations grim, as usual. I wanted to add that there's some evidence of men being biologically programmed to find girls around 20 years old to be the most attractive and desirable, no matter what age the man.

Canadiense
01-28-2008, 06:24 PM
Well, that's that... I've missed the train....:|

I'm officially a spinster...:hmpf:

Tally
01-29-2008, 12:03 AM
Well, that's that... I've missed the train....:|

I'm officially a spinster...:hmpf:
me too *sigh*

optimus
01-29-2008, 01:08 AM
Hot spinsters, that is. :hump:

Feenix566
01-29-2008, 11:30 AM
Me too :(

That's okay. I've been seriously considering the possibility that I'm better off alone. No overpriced shiny rocks to buy. No children to support. No alimony. With all the money I'm saving I might be able to afford that Lamborghini some day :D

Canadiense
01-29-2008, 11:43 AM
If God came down from heavens and said: "Son, this is your lucky day. I'll give you two mutually exclusive options to choose from:

1) You can have all the wealth you desire, you would be richer than any man on earth, anything you think of could be yours.... But noone will ever love you.

2)You will be no better nor worse off than any average jo blow of this world when it comes to material possessions, you'll never be rich for as long as you live, but you get to love and be loved by a wonderful person, spend your days and grow old with them."

What would it be?

Baboon
01-29-2008, 11:53 AM
What would it be?

Option 2 and it's not even close.

Feenix566
01-29-2008, 12:01 PM
That's a hypothetical situation. The real world doesn't work like that. You can be loved without being married, not only by people with whom you're romantically involved but also by friends and family. And just because you're married, that doesn't automatically imply that you're happily married, or that you even like your spouse.

Baboon
01-29-2008, 12:08 PM
That's a hypothetical situation.

Yeah no shit. She's looking for a hypothetical answer.

Feenix566
01-29-2008, 12:12 PM
The question is pointless.

If you expect your s/o to be your sole source of love in this world, and you expect that love to be perfect, you're going to be consistently disappointed until you get a more realistic perspective.

In fact, that's exactly what was wrong with one of my ex's. She expected those things of me, and of course she was always upset because I couldn't possibly be everything she was expecting me to be. No matter what I did, it was never good enough. If I wanted to hang out with my friends, she was upset. If I wasn't in the mood to cuddle, she was upset. We fought constantly until it ended.

Tally
01-29-2008, 12:40 PM
If God came down from heavens and said: "Son, this is your lucky day. I'll give you two mutually exclusive options to choose from:

1) You can have all the wealth you desire, you would be richer than any man on earth, anything you think of could be yours.... But noone will ever love you.

2)You will be no better nor worse off than any average jo blow of this world when it comes to material possessions, you'll never be rich for as long as you live, but you get to love and be loved by a wonderful person, spend your days and grow old with them."

What would it be?
I dunno, I'm doing pretty well and enjoying my life without love right now, at least romantic love, there is plenty of friends-and-family love. But perhaps that's just the stage of my life I'm in right now, not looking to "settle down" and all that bullshit.

Canadiense
01-29-2008, 01:10 PM
Ok, why get upset? So, you think it's pointless, OK. Thank you and have a good day.

It just so happens a lot of people would/could choose option 1. A lot of people I had met during my life do not comprehend deep affection, they don't need and cannot give it. They do not believe in love, and do not seek for love. I think people refer to these types as "emotionally unavailable".


As you mentioned the fact that you'd contemplated a life spent alone... it reminded me of something: I would hate my life if I had to spend it alone, and no matter how obsessive this may sound, I'm not ashamed to admit it. It would be a sad existence. Don't get me wrong, friends/family, that's all good.... But your friends and family have their family circles, where they will invest most of their time and energy. You wouldn't have that circle, and the older you'd get, the more solitude would get to you.

I just saw a nutty movie called "Paris Je t'aime", and interestingly enough, there was a story about an American woman in her late 40's who'd lived her entire life alone, and travelled alone to Paris. She walks the streets of Paris alone, eats in a restaurant alone... Then she sits on a bench in a beautiful park and suddenly a feeling overwhelmes her. She observes everyone around her: little kids with their parents playing in the park... couples young and old, sitting on the benches all around her... Couples talking and laughing, touching, holding hands... In that beautiful, serene atmosophere, she sees other people's happiness and simultaneously feels that it is the one thing she had been missing her entire life. She experiences both joy and saddness, and her eyes fill with tears...

I completely understand this sentiment, as I have felt the same very often. It's the one thing I'd always waited for, but it somehow always escaped me.

Not everyone contemplates the same things... Some people look forward to Lamborghini's, where as others, to finding a kindured spirit.

Feenix566
01-29-2008, 02:32 PM
I just saw a nutty movie called "Paris Je t'aime", and interestingly enough, there was a story about an American woman in her late 40's who'd lived her entire life alone, and travelled alone to Paris. She walks the streets of Paris alone, eats in a restaurant alone... Then she sits on a bench in a beautiful park and suddenly a feeling overwhelmes her. She observes everyone around her: little kids with their parents playing in the park... couples young and old, sitting on the benches all around her... Couples talking and laughing, touching, holding hands... In that beautiful, serene atmosophere, she sees other people's happiness and simultaneously feels that it is the one thing she had been missing her entire life. She experiences both joy and saddness, and her eyes fill with tears...


I once saw a movie where aliens invade Earth, intent on killing off all humans so they can steal all of our natural resources. Will Smith punched one of them in the face. It was great!

But it didn't change a thing about my life, because it's not a true story. Neither is your story. Married couples aren't all talking, laughing, touching, and holding hands. There's also a lot of bickering, arguing, dishes that get left undone in the sink, lawns that don't get mowed, trash that doesn't get taken out, and many more daily unpleasantries. A woman who doesn't get married isn't forced into a life of sitting in parks in Paris all alone thinking about how pointless her existence is.

There's more than one path to happiness.

Canadiense
01-29-2008, 03:24 PM
I was not talking about marriage. I was talking about companionship.

I don't care about getting married. Never pictured myself there anyway.

I care about having companionship, someone to share my life with. This is what that woman in the movie was talking about, standing on a lookout point overseeing Paris: "It would have been nice to have had someone next to me at that moment and say: it's beautiful, isn't it?"

I guess we'e just different that way Feenix.

Canadiense
01-29-2008, 03:42 PM
[quote=Feenix566;1631951] Neither is your story. Married couples aren't all talking, laughing, touching, and holding hands. There's also a lot of bickering, arguing, dishes that get left undone in the sink, lawns that don't get mowed, trash that doesn't get taken out, and many more daily unpleasantries. /quote]

It's a story of many a people out there, for many are alone, with no one to share their moments with [whereas the alien story is a non-debatable product of human imagination - so how can you compare the two?]

At some point, you might start realizing that everything you'd acomplished is in vain - for you have no one but yourself to be proud of it all. Who will pat your back, give you a hug, who will care what you have and who you are? Don't you need someone that cares? See, this is what I don't understand...

I'm not the type who would live a life full of bickering and arguing anyway... I'd seen both he bright side and dark side of relationships, it just depends on the choice of person. When you step into the dark side, it's your own fault for staying in it, or for not recognizing the wolf in a sheep's clothing at the beginning. But there were people in my life that offered nothing but light, laughter and love. So I know how that feels, I'm not expecting the impossible.

fairlyconserv
01-29-2008, 03:54 PM
The key to happiness is being content with where you're are at. You know...accepting those things you cannot change.....

Feenix566
01-29-2008, 03:56 PM
At some point, you might start realizing that everything you'd acomplished is in vain

I guess that depends on how you define success. If the value of your accomplishments is measured by how your significant other perceives them, then I guess your life really is pointless when you're alone. I don't think that's a healthy way to see things, though, and I don't see things that way. If I accomplish something, it has value regardless of whether or not I have "someone to share it with."

Canadiense
01-29-2008, 05:08 PM
I guess that depends on how you define success. If the value of your accomplishments is measured by how your significant other perceives them, then I guess your life really is pointless when you're alone. I don't think that's a healthy way to see things, though, and I don't see things that way. If I accomplish something, it has value regardless of whether or not I have "someone to share it with."


I said "you might start realizing"...at some point... You are in your 20-s correct? You will probably change your views in time. Unless you wanna become like the Charlie Sheen character in "Two and a half men".

It's ok, so we disagree. I think every lonely moment is a wasted one. That's just me.

grimrebuke
01-29-2008, 05:46 PM
If God came down from heavens and said: "Son, this is your lucky day. I'll give you two mutually exclusive options to choose from:

1) You can have all the wealth you desire, you would be richer than any man on earth, anything you think of could be yours.... But noone will ever love you.

2)You will be no better nor worse off than any average jo blow of this world when it comes to material possessions, you'll never be rich for as long as you live, but you get to love and be loved by a wonderful person, spend your days and grow old with them."

What would it be?

Well, assuming the offer was still good after I spent a couple of hours pointing out what a crappy job God has been doing and demanding some kind of action to rectify it, preferably the removal of God's devout and fundamentalist followers of every stripe to the afterlife where they can torture each other endlessly without screwing up the world, and then maybe a little clarification for the unsure ones that remain that they should stay the hell out of my business.... and if we were still on speaking terms after that....

This is hard... on the one hand, I could have a genuine devotion motivated solely by the divine intervention of a supreme deity while living a "normal" life. On the other hand, I could have a genuine devotion of several women motivated solely by the divine intervention of absurd wealth while getting to see all of the world in style.....

I take 1. The happiness I could receive from one devoted slave of God's will is nothing compared to the happiness I could provide to the people I Loved, whether they Loved me back or not, with absurd wealth.

SolarDeath
02-09-2008, 05:24 PM
Is the fate of women in America slowly resorting to the likeness of Japanese culture?

http://www.snopes.com/risque/kinky/panties.asp




Girlish youth and innocence are considered sexy in Japan, a culture with a long history of regarding women more as sex toys than as people. This obsession with untouched adolescence results in the sad sight of women in their thirties emitting girlish giggles and clutching teddy bears in an effort to maintain their appeal to the opposite sex.

I know you've all seen the 30 somethings that dress like their 13 year old daughters.

Bear Stories
02-09-2008, 06:09 PM
..........

It's ok, so we disagree. I think every lonely moment is a wasted one. That's just me.

Perhaps, but I also think that there's a big difference between being lonely and being alone. I am often alone and rarely lonely. I enjoy my own company and I don't feel that I need a mate to make me "whole".

Tally
02-09-2008, 06:17 PM
Perhaps, but I also think that there's a big difference between being lonely and being alone. I am often alone and rarely lonely. I enjoy my own company and I don't feel that I need a mate to make me "whole".
Absolutely....just because you're "alone" (i.e. without a mate) does not mean you are lonely. For some people it does, and they usually can't imagine how any of their single friends function or attain any state of actual happiness without a mate. And likewise those independent and happy single people can't understand how their friend can't seem to be function or be happy on their own. It's just that people are different, they have different values, motivations, goals, etc.

"to each their own" I say....

easian
02-11-2008, 09:39 AM
i was looking through the magazine i get every month (Procycling) and in the News section of it, it had a photo of a guy and his girlfriend. it did not state the guys age but it did say the girlfriend was 16. I did some calculation by cross reference and calculated the guy was 27

i find this creepy and a bit odd. anyone else agree?

this guy is 11 years older then the girl and the girl is still a school girl (i assume)

i checked out wikipedia and they have since broken up though

You have stronger body, lower IQ than Eastern Asians you start walking earlier than Eastern Asians. You run faster than Eastern Asians, your mother has a shorter pregancy than Eastern Asian mothers. You have longer legs than Eastern Asians. Your emotion is less stable than Eastern Asins'. You are less shy by nature than Eastern Asians. Are you more evolved or less evolved than Eastern Asians???

Eastern Asians mainly refers to the Chinese, the Japanese and the Koreans who are the highest in IQ, the weakest in body, the latest to reach bodily maturity, the latest to start walking (for babies), the shiest.
The black and the white are much closer with each other in genes than with Eastern Asians.their only major difference is the colour. Eastern Asians are much different from them two.

IFF
02-11-2008, 03:01 PM
easian as you are quoting my original post, i will reply

You have stronger body, lower IQ than Eastern Asians

eastern asians must be weaklings if i'm stronger then them

You run faster than Eastern Asians

i sincerely doubt that. i'm not fast

your mother has a shorter pregancy than Eastern Asian mothers.

to be fair i was premature

You have longer legs than Eastern Asians. Your emotion is less stable than Eastern Asins'.

well in height i'm about 5'8 so ?

You are less shy by nature than Eastern Asians.

****, i'm very shy. hate to see how shy eastern asians are? hell, i didn't have any friends until i was 7

Are you more evolved or less evolved than Eastern Asians???

neither. we are both human beings.

easian
02-13-2008, 11:32 AM
easian as you are quoting my original post, i will reply



eastern asians must be weaklings if i'm stronger then them



i sincerely doubt that. i'm not fast



to be fair i was premature



well in height i'm about 5'8 so ?



****, i'm very shy. hate to see how shy eastern asians are? hell, i didn't have any friends until i was 7



neither. we are both human beings.

Under the same cirmstances, a black guy will get irritated the most and the first, the white guy, a bit less and second, an Eastern Asian guy, the least and the last.

Your Prince William should have started walking at his 12th month, one month later than the average black babies and one month earlier than the average Eastern Asian babies. He may run faster than my husband, my brother....

Monster
02-13-2008, 12:03 PM
This has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand. easian, if you're going to be a gimmick poster, restrict it to threads that have something to do with East Asians.

Otherwise post on topic.

Or leave. Your choice.

sis
02-18-2008, 03:43 AM
well... that stops it all together...

KAY-fnx
03-11-2008, 05:59 AM
Hmm, I guess anyone here would agree I'm too young to be disscusing this topic but I figured I would say it anyways.

Of course the girl who is younger would have no problem with dating an older,
more mature male. I have a friend from Argentina that I have talked to over the internet
for 4 years after meeting him when I went there to visit my family, He's 24, and although
being 10 years older than me he has an unbelievebly huge liking for me just because I
will sit down and listen to him and cheer him up. Maybe sometimes they find someone
who they have never had that type of bond with and become attracted to them for that?

Feenix566
03-11-2008, 09:09 AM
Hmm, I guess anyone here would agree I'm too young to be disscusing this topic but I figured I would say it anyways.

Of course the girl who is younger would have no problem with dating an older,
more mature male. I have a friend from Argentina that I have talked to over the internet
for 4 years after meeting him when I went there to visit my family, He's 24, and although
being 10 years older than me he has an unbelievebly huge liking for me just because I
will sit down and listen to him and cheer him up. Maybe sometimes they find someone
who they have never had that type of bond with and become attracted to them for that?

There's a word for that. It's called child molestation. Please contact the FBI. Thank you.

Canadiense
03-11-2008, 09:39 AM
:lol:

KAY-fnx
03-12-2008, 11:21 AM
There's a word for that. It's called child molestation. Please contact the FBI. Thank you.
hahaha hes not doing anything he lives across the world :|
and it's not child molestation if he's never said or done anything sexual towards me
He's just :hmm: I don't know? A bit obsessed? Childish actually considering
hes making a fuss about me telling him to respect that I want nothing to do with him

Feenix566
03-12-2008, 12:50 PM
Wow, this guy sounds like a real winner. He's 24 years old, and he spends his time hitting on a 14-year-old who lives a couple thousand miles away.

Do yourself a favor, and avoid this guy. Spend your time hanging out with people who have more self-respect.

IFF
03-12-2008, 02:35 PM
Wow, this guy sounds like a real winner. He's 24 years old, and he spends his time hitting on a 14-year-old who lives a couple thousand miles away.

Do yourself a favor, and avoid this guy. Spend your time hanging out with people who have more self-respect.

i agree wholeheartedly with Feenix

this started when you were 10 and he was 20?? what did your parents think about you travelling to argentina to meet him?

grimrebuke
03-12-2008, 03:20 PM
My recent ex was 10 years older than me however when we first got together I was 23 and he was 33 and that's quite a bit different than being 16. I wouldn't mind being casually involved with someone with that big of an age difference again but I highly doubt I would ever enter into any sort of serious relationship like that again.

My ex-wife is 10 years younger than me and I have every intention of repeating that mistake if the right opportunity presents itself.

Wedge
03-12-2008, 03:32 PM
I turned 28 last week, and my girlfriend will turn 21 in May. You can do the math. Oh, and we have a daughter together that will turn 3 in November.

KAY-fnx
03-17-2008, 02:51 AM
i agree wholeheartedly with Feenix

this started when you were 10 and he was 20?? what did your parents think about you travelling to argentina to meet him?
:hmm: I said I went to visit my family in Argentina and he noticed I spoke English
so we talked because he was learning, I'm sure theres no reason to avoid him
He's been like a brother to me for the past 4 years, He's told me how hes felt
but Its not like he brings it up all the time or trying to do anything

saintjimmy
04-07-2008, 09:19 PM
I think that would be legally considered pedophilia unless they never had sex (which they probably did). :|

Pedophilia is not a legal term, it's a psychiatric term. It means pathological, persistent attraction to preadolescents. So 16 wouldn't qualify.

As to whether a sexual relationship would be legal, it depends on the state. In most of the U.S., 16 is the age of consent unless the older partner is in a position of authority.

Juliet
04-27-2008, 08:10 PM
What about a 43 yr old guy dating a 34 year old gal? 9 years the age gap, does it matters too? i think not... As long as you like each other then that is not an issue... =)
just an apinion..

Ross22
05-01-2008, 03:27 AM
I think that the most important thing is compatibility and not the age!

Juliet
05-08-2008, 09:05 PM
I think that the most important thing is compatibility and not the age!



yes i agree.. As age has nothing to do if you both lack of chemistry... :)

TheLateGreat
05-08-2008, 09:15 PM
That's gross. 16 is way too old.

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