Presidents should be able to run for election as many times as they want. It's up to the public whether or not they should be elected. If he's doing a good job, why not let him have a chance to continue?

Limiting them to only two terms is ridiculous, and simply undemocratic.

I think there should be a limit, but I think it should be 3 terms.

So if some guy comes along with unprecedented leadership and fixes everything wrong with America, and 100% the country LOVES him, he should get kicked to the curb after two terms, allowing a potentially crappy person to take over?

Yeah, that'd be a special scenario that I don't think would ever be possible. On the same token, if that same person wins by 51% every year, almost half of the country is going to be pissed off. Since more than half of the USA is effectively libtards, no thanks :p

I prefer to call them Demoncrats.

I'd say maybe no limit if the approval rating/election margin is greater than 90%.

I prefer to call them Demoncrats.
That works too.

I agree there should be no term limits, if campaigns were financed by tax dollars and not bribery, equal time provisons were in place, and votes could be independently verified, unlike nowadays.

A third term would be OK if there were a supermajority vote. More than that? If a person were so worthy to serve "for life", they should represent a faction composed of fellow citizens they could recommend to take over when they leave. It would also be essential to have massive election reforms in place, as Farnsworth noted.
-Anyone else on DA notice the irony? Neocons criticizing the term limit, which was imposed after a liberal president (FDR) served nearly 4 terms. A gifted person will get the job done after twelve years. Going beyond that will probably hurt the cause, whether it is liberal or conservative.

What job? Good leaderships? How can you "get that done" in 12 years?

Who is it you feel should be allowed to serve another term?

What job? Good leaderships? How can you "get that done" in 12 years?

A lot can happen in only 8 years. Look at all that Bush did. Took our Treasury from a 250 billion dollar surplus to a 500 billion dollar deficit. Took our international profile from being respected around the world to being completely reviled. Inspired more than half the country to believe that their own government is capable of staging a false flag terror attack against its own citizens in order to launch an illegal war and establish the beginnings of a totalitarian regime. Brought in government corruption at unprecedented levels with the complete breakdown of the public's trust in the federal justice system due to scandal after scandal involving those at the highest levels of that government agency. Oh, and allowing the loss of a major American city to a murky maze of shady corporate graft and kickback schemes initiated by the Dept. of Homeland Security's stepchild FEMA.

Then, there's the Constitutional crisis that's looming involving the Executive Branch and The Legislative Branch. let's keep an eye on that one. That'll probably be GW's permanent legacy staple. Nothing like destroying the basic foundation of our entire governmental structure to show how much of an impact you can have on things.

Yeah. A lot can get accomplished in just 8 years. I think two terms is probably sufficient if you stay good and focused.

Who is it you feel should be allowed to serve another term?

Let's see if we can guess.

The term limit definitely has it's good and bad points, but keep in mind one of the reasons it's implemented is to avoid a prolonged dictatorship, such as repeating the one so many people felt we got back in 2004 when Bush was re-elected (I personally think those people are full of crap, but the example still kind of applies).
Plus there are probably a gosh awful lot of people who will continue to reelect the same person over and over because of familiarity rather than leadership ability, using the "better to go with the evil you know than the evil you don't" mentality.

one 5-year term and that's it. no Presidents wasting their 4th year in office campaigning for a second term (in your case, 2nd & 3rd), no bs.

Ever hear of the "Right to Bare Arms"? There would be no chance of a dictatorship if the general population was armed.

Ever hear of the "Right to Bare Arms"? There would be no chance of a dictatorship if the general population was armed.

How old are you anyway? :confused:

Ever hear of the "Right to Bare Arms"?

You mean the right to wear a tank top? :confused:

Who is it you feel should be allowed to serve another term?

Why do you ask that question ? Do you think they are talking about the BA?
Does it matter who they feel should rate another term? Just answer the question...Do you agree with the two term limit or not? I believe if a candidate can win three terms ...why not.

one 5-year term and that's it. no Presidents wasting their 4th year in office campaigning for a second term (in your case, 2nd & 3rd), no bs.

Very good point...

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.....There would be no chance of a dictatorship if the general population was armed.


:eek7::p:nonono:

one 5-year term and that's it. no Presidents wasting their 4th year in office campaigning for a second term (in your case, 2nd & 3rd), no bs.

The last thing you need is every president a lame duck out from the gate. The way it is now he's allowed at least 4 years, and the threat of another term keeps everybody competitive.

Ever hear of the "Right to Bare Arms"? There would be no chance of a dictatorship if the general population was armed.

I guess that worked in Iraq where everybody was armed!:D

Ever hear of the "Right to Bare Arms"? There would be no chance of a dictatorship if the general population was armed.

Yep, I certainly am all for short sleeve tops.:nice:


Pssst, it's "Bear", not Bare

With presidential primaries that don't count in half the states, the electoral college keeping the two-party system in place, special interests funding the candidates' campaigns and simultaneously controlling the media, questionable vote-counting procedures, and a congress with a 95% re-election rate and a 15% approval rating, you want to abolish term limits? Don't you think we have bigger problems to deal with?

Don't you think we have bigger problems to deal with?

Yes, but with the liberalization of Value Issues, we have to pick our battles until a later time.

Yes, but with the liberalization of Value Issues, we have to pick our battles until a later time.

What does "liberalization of Value Issues" mean?

What does "liberalization of Value Issues" mean?

It means condoms are evul and we're going to Hell.

What does "liberalization of Value Issues" mean?

I was going to ask the same thing, it makes me realize what a visionary Orwell was, and that we're living in the world he imagined.

Yes, but with the liberalization of Value Issues, we have to pick our battles until a later time.

Hey Goldie, focus on your own Goddamn values and stay the f-k out of everyone elses. You jerkoffs keep pushing this sh-t and you'll be wishing you could go back to the days of the lions. This society is about getting what it wants, when it wants it. If it wanted what you freaks want, it'd already have it. Move. Get out of here if you can't deal with how it is. Go build your society somewhere else and quit trying to make us wipe you out. We'll put up with a certain amount of nuttiness from those around us, but if you people start really making a pain in the ass of yourselves, you're going to step over that last line and it'll be fast, ugly and permanent.

Am I being obvious enough for you Golden Boy?

Go tell your pastor that he needs to start worrying about spiritual things and get the f-k off the political things. Jesus was never a politician and never even liked politics. Catch a clue and lay off the politics. We've let you clowns have your little party and feel all flushed with power but it's over and it's time for you to go back to your trailers and stop pissing us off.

Look at this any way you want to but I'm just trying to show a little tough love here. It's really getting to a tipping point and I don't want to see any more of the ugliness that's already starting to rear its head in your community. Church and state are separate in this country. There's a reason for that, and it's not to prevent a religion from taking over. It's to prevent a religion from being completely obliterated.

I think the term limits are good. Why? Because more often than not, the guy who is in office now is the guy people are going to vote for...simply because they're used to him. He looks "presidential" just by holding the office for a number of years.

Congress needs term limits too. I'd suggest 4 or 6 terms max for the House and 2 or 3 terms max for the Senate.

Move. Get out of here if you can't deal with how it is. Go build your society somewhere else and quit trying to make us wipe you out.

Hey, look, it's the "If you don't like it, leave" argument again. :rolleyes:

If it wanted what you freaks want, it'd already have it. Move. Get out of here if you can't deal with how it is. Go build your society somewhere else and quit trying to make us wipe you out.

Wipe us out? You sound like Muckmud Imgonnanukeyoujihad. Its the Liberals who should move instead of trying to change America into the antithesis of what its founders had intended. An atheist, socialized, government controlled welfare nation.

Go tell your pastor that he needs to start worrying about spiritual things and get the f-k off the political things.

That's like trying to separate the sugar from honey.

It's to prevent a religion from being completely obliterated.

Que the UN weapons inspectors.

Hey Goldie, focus on your own Goddamn values and stay the f-k out of everyone elses. You jerkoffs keep pushing this sh-t and you'll be wishing you could go back to the days of the lions. This society is about getting what it wants, when it wants it. If it wanted what you freaks want, it'd already have it. Move. Get out of here if you can't deal with how it is. Go build your society somewhere else and quit trying to make us wipe you out. We'll put up with a certain amount of nuttiness from those around us, but if you people start really making a pain in the ass of yourselves, you're going to step over that last line and it'll be fast, ugly and permanent.

Am I being obvious enough for you Golden Boy?
Go tell your pastor that he needs to start worrying about spiritual things and get the f-k off the political things. Jesus was never a politician and never even liked politics. How do you know? Catch a clue and lay off the politics. We've let you clowns have your little party and feel all flushed with power but it's over and it's time for you to go back to your trailers and stop pissing us off.

Look at this any way you want to but I'm just trying to show a little tough love here. It's really getting to a tipping point and I don't want to see any more of the ugliness that's already starting to rear its head in your community. Church and state are separate in this country. There's a reason for that, and it's not to prevent a religion from taking over. It's to prevent a religion from being completely obliterated.

Wow what he did he say that brought this rant down on his head. Oh I remeber, certian DA members get pissed when some people state thier opinions in this forum....any opinions that differ from thier's bring's down the retribution.

Wow what he did he say that brought this rant down on his head. Oh I remeber, certian DA members get pissed when some people state thier opinions in this forum....any opinions that differ from theres bring down the retribution.

Some opinions are so incredibly idiotic as to invite contempt and derision rather than debate. Without minimal standards, no debate is possible.

Some opinions are so incredibly idiotic as to invite contempt and derision rather than debate. Without minimal standards, no debate is possible.

I know some opinions are Idiotic, most of yours are, IMHO. But do I ever say you dont have a right to express them here on DA?

Go build your society somewhere else and quit trying to make us wipe you out. We'll put up with a certain amount of nuttiness from those around us, but if you people start really making a pain in the ass of yourselves, you're going to step over that last line and it'll be fast, ugly and permanent.

Isn't that a large part of why America was founded in the first place? To build a society where everyone is free to worship as they wish without others being able to legally harrass them into oblivion? Sounds to me like the wrong person is being told to leave.

Go tell your pastor that he needs to start worrying about spiritual things and get the f-k off the political things. Jesus was never a politician and never even liked politics. How do you know? Catch a clue and lay off the politics. We've let you clowns have your little party and feel all flushed with power but it's over and it's time for you to go back to your trailers and stop pissing us off.

Bigotry on parade. Break out the trombones. It must really grind some gears that religious people get the same power and the freedom to exercise it that everyone else does.

Jesus was never a politician and never even liked politics. When you have an agenda to change the world you are a politician supreme!

Wipe us out? You sound like Muckmud Imgonnanukeyoujihad. Its the Liberals who should move instead of trying to change America into the antithesis of what its founders had intended. An atheist, socialized, government controlled welfare nation.


Can't we all just let each other be different? :shrug:

Presidents should be able to run for election as many times as they want. It's up to the public whether or not they should be elected. If he's doing a good job, why not let him have a chance to continue?

Limiting them to only two terms is ridiculous, and simply undemocratic.

I agree. After all, we may just get a really good president in offce one day. It's time for the US Constitution to be amended to reflect that sentiment. We should organize and get 'er done.

Bigotry on parade. Break out the trombones. It must really grind some gears that religious people get the same power and the freedom to exercise it that everyone else does.


I have no problem with that, but please don't fall for the Christian okie-doke!
ok, back on topic...

With presidential primaries that don't count in half the states, the electoral college keeping the two-party system in place, special interests funding the candidates' campaigns and simultaneously controlling the media, questionable vote-counting procedures, and a congress with a 95% re-election rate and a 15% approval rating, you want to abolish term limits? Don't you think we have bigger problems to deal with?

Now that you mention it...