1 IS there a difference between Masonry and Rosicrucianism?

2 Is Alchemy practiced by either of these groups?

3 Can women join?

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I knew somebody who used to be a Rosecrucian.

By my limited understanding, they practice spiritual alchemy at higher levels, but not physical alchemy.

NO clue on the Masons with that.

I think the Masons have some sort of women's auxillary. I'm not sure what the Rosecrucians policy is.

Women can not join Mason's, they can however join the Eastern Star.

A couple of mods here are freemasons...

...be afraid...very afraid...

rosecrusians is a religon, freemansonry is not, its more like a social club with weird rituals. they are both based on some of the same things though.

Women can not join Mason's, they can however join the Eastern Star.
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and oki is also correct, Freemasonry is not a religion, its an organization of Christian men.

I despise secret societies.

My dad is a Past Master, my grandpaw was a Free Mason, I'm sure I'll be one oneday :shrug:

I despise secret societies.

It's not secret. :hmm:

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and oki is also correct, Freemasonry is not a religion, its an organization of Christian men.

Doing charity work, yeah thats right....charity work....

My dads grandfather was a freemason. You can't just become one though I don't think.

Doing charity work, yeah thats right....charity work....
of course charity work, what else would an organization like that do? :shrug:



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lol-what else? ;)

youc an become a freemanson, you might need an invite though.
and I thought freemansonry was open to all religons, as long as youre prepared to worship their weird icons, lol.
the rosecrusian church is christian, but with a mystical/egyptian touch. its a bit similair to coptic christians in egypt, and early christianity, from before teh catholics took over.

and dude, your nation was founded by freemansons, the symbolism is everywhere, in your money, buildings, system. its pretty odd actually, they dont teach this extensively in your schools. but I guess thats why its a secret society..

a lot of muy coreligionists object to freemasonry citing cultic overtones-"unequally joined" is the phrase they use-im leary of them as i am of all secular orgs but Satan uses good and bad-

youc an become a freemanson, you might need an invite though.
and I thought freemansonry was open to all religons, as long as youre prepared to worship their weird icons, lol.
the rosecrusian church is christian, but with a mystical/egyptian touch. its a bit similair to coptic christians in egypt, and early christianity, from before teh catholics took over.

and dude, your nation was founded by freemansons, the symbolism is everywhere, in your money, buildings, system. its pretty odd actually, they dont teach this extensively in your schools. but I guess thats why its a secret society..

It is everywhere man. I mean every-focking-where. My dad is always pointing it out to me, he just recently pointed out that the building where they film the Jimmy Kimmel show has a bunch of freemason symbols on it. It's seriously everywhere.

My wife was a member of the Masons back in her native country and her mother is still active. She wanted to join but even as an Eastern Star member, she could not be a member. She was told that the Eastern Star would not accept someone unless they were married to a Mason. I was invited myself but really did not see a reason to join Masonry. Besides, being in the IWW and being active in Martial Arts and being a student at that time, I really did not have the time for that.

But I find the art of Alchemy fascinating. I guess thats why the Rosy Cross is so intreguing to me.

My wife was a member of the Masons back in her native country and her mother is still active. She wanted to join but even as an Eastern Star member, she could not be a member. She was told that the Eastern Star would not accept someone unless they were married to a Mason. I was invited myself but really did not see a reason to join Masonry. Besides, being in the IWW and being active in Martial Arts and being a student at that time, I really did not have the time for that.

But I find the art of Alchemy fascinating. I guess thats why the Rosy Cross is so intreguing to me.

Alchemy doesn't seem like much of an art. It's a historic portrayal of dreamers and schemers poisoned by the materials they worked so they were mostly left brain damaged, in early graves, and outcasts, or hermits driven to isolation from fears of thievery and/or betrayal.

Of course, the fascination comes from the secrecy of symbolism used to disguise either real majik, or make failed experiments seem successful.

It's as fleeting as making non-alcoholic beer taste real.

Anyways, there must be an abundance of information available on alchemy, there shouldn't be any reason that you can't explore the science on your own terms.

I got invited to a Knights of Columbus meeting once which is strange since I am not Catholic. Maybe they just wanted my body. :(

rosecrusians is a religon, freemansonry is not, its more like a social club with weird rituals. they are both based on some of the same things though.

both are satanic

doesnt it bother any of you that your country was founded by freemasons, your state symbolism is freemason, etc... but you arent in on it? that its still somehow secret? does anybody know what the pyramid and eye on your dollar bill stand for? why tehres an obelisk in the middle of washington, whats with all the greek gods everywhere, things like that? seriously, do they teach something about that in schools?

doesnt it bother any of you that your country was founded by freemasons, your state symbolism is freemason, etc... but you arent in on it? that its still somehow secret? does anybody know what the pyramid and eye on your dollar bill stand for? why tehres an obelisk in the middle of washington, whats with all the greek gods everywhere, things like that? seriously, do they teach something about that in schools?

A symbol is only a symbol. Like curses, they only have power over you if you believe they do.
A swastika, pyramid or cross on my wall means nothing unless I want it to, or think it does.

If a person wants to look for weird symbols in the world, one could take the shapes on the roadsigns as some secret glyph code that hitchhikers are conspiring to take over the roadways. :shrug:

well yea but then you look for symbolism in things that arent made as such. with the freemanson symbolism in the US, it is ment that way.

Hoenstly who cares anymore im fed up with conspiraceys and everything.

If people think this kind of stuff is no big deal, then explain what on Earth goes on in the woods on northern Cali...

Ooops, that's the bohemian Grove, I wonder what the connections are..

well yea but then you look for symbolism in things that arent made as such. with the freemanson symbolism in the US, it is ment that way.

Pepsi puts their Pepsi logo on their popcans, but it doesn't make the beverage evil.

Pepsi puts their Pepsi logo on their popcans, but it doesn't make the beverage evil. im not claiming its evil, just that its od that something so obviously part of US history, is a bit of a mystery. I happen to think there are several kinds of freemansonry, or whatever they call it, but the main one has pretty decent motives. your country was founded as a new beginning, the start of a new time of freedom, where people could be equal and not repressed. to get away from the setled powers in europe. to create a better world. thats not evil.
im just wandering, for example, that pyramid with teh eye on your dollar bill, it only seems normal that americans understand teh symbolism behind that, its on your money, what does it mean, why did they put it up there?

It's not just a part of the US' history, Oki, although it is easier seen there.

thats true. but in europe, its not a dominating thing. france is pretty big on it though.

Get your tinfoil, Oki, we're going to need to make some hats... :tinfoil:

Oki, don't listen to Mystlet. She is obviously one of them. Or a droid.

im not claiming its evil, just that its od that something so obviously part of US history, is a bit of a mystery. I happen to think there are several kinds of freemansonry, or whatever they call it, but the main one has pretty decent motives. your country was founded as a new beginning, the start of a new time of freedom, where people could be equal and not repressed. to get away from the setled powers in europe. to create a better world. thats not evil.
im just wandering, for example, that pyramid with teh eye on your dollar bill, it only seems normal that americans understand teh symbolism behind that, its on your money, what does it mean, why did they put it up there?
The United States Federal Reserve Bank is a Masonic organization. It is affiliated with the International Monitary Fund, the World Bank and other extra-legal organizations.

I you want to see more about the Federal Reserve Bank and the enslavement of the United States economy that watch the link below... if you dare...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173&q=freedom+to+facism+duration%3Along

Just to clarify, Masonic Ritual is Christian, their forms of worship are directed to The Great Architect (Intelligent Design, eh?). You would need to be a practicing Christian (not RC) to use and accept the various forms of prayer and rituals used at meetings.
Joining is by invitation. A Mason will get to know you and if he thinks you are the right material you will get an invite.
Note that being invested into a Temple is not a cheap undertaking, you have to buy your regalia (apron, gloves, etc) from a specialist shop and if you should attain a high office, especially Master you are expected to cover the costs of all the specialist rituals, meals and events during your period in office.

The Rosy Cross guys are just trying to live the fantasy of ritual magick, it's got overlaid with some New Age stuff in recent years in an effort to recruit some of the hippy-dippy crowd, some see it as a forerunner to Scientology....but it doesn't make their kind of money!!!

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sorry i couldn't resist :D