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03-07-2007, 01:29 PM
COPENHAGEN, Denmark, March 5 (UPI) -- Police in Copenhagen say they expect more violence from anarchist and anti-capitalist protesters who have converged on the Danish capital since last week.

Since Thursday, 643 people have been arrested for riots protesting the eviction of squatters from a 110-year-old building that once housed the far-left political movement in the city. Since 1996, it has been occupied by squatters, but anti-terror police moved in last week, The Times of London reported Monday.

The area around the Youth House building has been cordoned off, but protesters torched cars, ransacked a school and set fire to a nursery, police said.

Deputy Police Chief Niels-Erik Hansen told reporters 140 of those arrested so far have been from other countries, responding to an Internet appeal for more protesters.

"We expect that the moves to detain violent people and to expel the foreigners involved can calm the situation," Hansen said. "But we also expect that they will not give in."
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/Violent_anarchists_converge_in_Copenhagen/20070305-093158-7197r/

"Anarchy is no more an expression of 'social discontent' than picking pockets or wife-beating."
-TR

Gary
03-07-2007, 01:55 PM
It's good to see these kids are standing up against the fuzz. American kids should look to them for inspiration.

hadit
03-07-2007, 02:18 PM
If the squatters don't have any legal claim to the building and the owner wants them to leave, they should leave, period. I also can't help but notice the rioters' targets of choice, a school and a nursery. Good one, let's harm the children!

Dogberry
03-07-2007, 02:21 PM
I think the Danish police should shoot them.

Gary
03-07-2007, 03:35 PM
If the squatters don't have any legal claim to the building and the owner wants them to leave, they should leave, period. I also can't help but notice the rioters' targets of choice, a school and a nursery. Good one, let's harm the children!

When young anarchists and socialists stand up for what they believe in it scares conservatives such as yourself so I can understand your opposition. You are, after all, our enemy and we loathe you. The squatters were given the right to occupy the building many years ago but the current center-right government stabbed them in the back and sold the building. The riots aren't strictly about the building but are symbolic of a wider struggle against a capitalist establishment that has been increasingly eroding the Danish system with proposed reforms including raising the retirement age and trimming student grants. The Bush administration has been doing similar things in America but on a larger scale. American youth however, have been successfully opiated by MTV, right wing propaganda, fear, hatred, racism and a society that values material possessions over individual freedom among others things. I have faith however, that a new generation of American youth will soon rise up and put a stop to America's slide into a fascist police state.

I think the Danish police should shoot them.

I think they should shoot you :-)

ToeJam
03-07-2007, 03:36 PM
Anarchists are among the lowest forms of human life.

hadit
03-07-2007, 03:53 PM
When young anarchists and socialists stand up for what they believe in it scares conservatives such as yourself so I can understand your opposition. You are, after all, our enemy and we loathe you. The squatters were given the right to occupy the building many years ago but the current center-right government stabbed them in the back and sold the building. The riots aren't strictly about the building but are symbolic of a wider struggle against a capitalist establishment that has been increasingly eroding the Danish system with proposed reforms including raising the retirement age and trimming student grants. The Bush administration has been doing similar things in America but on a larger scale. American youth however, have been successfully opiated by MTV, right wing propaganda, fear, hatred, racism and a society that values material possessions over individual freedom among others things. I have faith however, that a new generation of American youth will soon rise up and put a stop to America's slide into a fascist police state.


What exactly do these illegals believe in, anyway? Their right to ignore someone else's right to their own property? They're apparently pretty upset that this owner is daring to invade "their" space and evict them. Why should he respect their "right" to his building when they won't respect his legitimate right to his own property?

The building owner should assert his right to occupy the building and simply move in, displacing the illegals. Maybe he should make it uninhabitable until they move out. It's his building, after all.

SpabSFW
03-07-2007, 04:06 PM
I think the Danish police should shoot them.

danes - the new irish. :p

you remain consistent, dogb. :)

JoeyNormal
03-07-2007, 04:39 PM
If the squatters don't have any legal claim to the building and the owner wants them to leave, they should leave, period. I also can't help but notice the rioters' targets of choice, a school and a nursery. Good one, let's harm the children!

Could it be...could it be...that the media chose the most sensational three of the buildings damaged?

SwiftSloth
03-07-2007, 05:01 PM
This land is your land.... This land is your land...

That is how it goes, right?

hadit
03-07-2007, 05:07 PM
Could it be...could it be...that the media chose the most sensational three of the buildings damaged?

Why were they damaged at all? Wouldn't people who really cared about the children's future do what they could to avoid damaging a school, of all things?

Gary
03-07-2007, 05:15 PM
What exactly do these illegals believe in, anyway? Their right to ignore someone else's right to their own property? They're apparently pretty upset that this owner is daring to invade "their" space and evict them. Why should he respect their "right" to his building when they won't respect his legitimate right to his own property?

The building owner should assert his right to occupy the building and simply move in, displacing the illegals. Maybe he should make it uninhabitable until they move out. It's his building, after all.

In 1982 the city gave the house to the youth of Copenhagen. In 2000, center-right politicians illegally sold the building. Therefore the youth of Copenhagen still own the building.

JoeyNormal
03-07-2007, 05:16 PM
Because it was a riot. Bad things happen in riots. People who don't care about political causes get involved in riots. Things go bad, in riots.

Corporate Avenger
03-07-2007, 05:23 PM
I'm amused to see anarchists are worse than Nazi's, commie's neo-cons, gangsters, etc...

All the anarchists I've been around have been much more pleasant tobe around than the average Joe, that's for sure..

oki
03-07-2007, 05:51 PM
I hope they keep rioting untill xmas.
110-year old building..... did you know that they immedietly tore that 110 year old building down, after the eviction?
and yes there are political motivations behind all this, the present gouv. doesnt like these people.

92Notch
03-07-2007, 08:34 PM
"The area around the Youth House building has been cordoned off, but protesters torched cars, ransacked a school and set fire to a nursery, police said."

Wow! how nobel! they should be alowed to burn the whole country down, the hell with laws ... then they should come and burn your house down... just for protest of course!

JoeyNormal
03-08-2007, 03:07 AM
It's a riot. Bad things happen in riots. This has nothing to with ideology.

skytrooper
03-08-2007, 05:49 AM
It's a riot. Bad things happen in riots. This has nothing to with ideology.
No it a bunch of punks that use violence as a means to get what they want.....typical liberals.....

JoeyNormal
03-08-2007, 06:09 AM
Anarchists have what to do with liberals?

skytrooper
03-08-2007, 06:17 AM
Anarchists have what to do with liberals?


William Godwin, of England, wrote essays advocating an eventual society with minimal government that are considered by many to be some of the first, if not the first, anarchist treatises. As such, some consider the liberal British writer to be the "father of philosophical anarchism." There is a lack of consensus as to whether Godwin was an individualist or a communist, or indeed, an anarchist rather than a minarchist. He is regarded by some as one of the first individualist anarchists, although his philosophy has some communist-like characteristics. He advocates an extreme form of individualism, proposing that all sorts of cooperation in labor should be eliminated; he says: "everything understood by the term co-operation is in some sense an evil."[10]

Its starts here then forms into becoming a liberal.....

oki
03-08-2007, 07:26 AM
I thought american republicans were for low gouv. and liberals were socialists?

hadit
03-08-2007, 07:49 AM
Because it was a riot. Bad things happen in riots. People who don't care about political causes get involved in riots. Things go bad, in riots.

If it is possible to identify those involved in the destruction, they should be apprehended and required to repair all the damage they did or pay to have it repaired. If they have the strength of their convictions, they should have no problem with that, and would make a much stronger point.

oki
03-08-2007, 08:24 AM
they will all refuse to indentify themselves and get held for that or fined, and have a lawyer take up their case as a group. squatters usually have some funds to pay for such thigs.

Gary
03-08-2007, 02:12 PM
If it is possible to identify those involved in the destruction, they should be apprehended and required to repair all the damage they did or pay to have it repaired.

The government was responsible for the destruction. They illegally evicted the residents and then tore down the building. Since the police won't arrest themselves the only alternative is to riot and throw petrol bombs at them.

hadit
03-08-2007, 03:34 PM
The government was responsible for the destruction. They illegally evicted the residents and then tore down the building. Since the police won't arrest themselves the only alternative is to riot and throw petrol bombs at them.

I didn't see in the article where the government damaged the school and the nursery, or where they set fires. The rioters did that, and need to be accountable for their actions. The government didn't force them to do anything.

Gary
03-08-2007, 03:59 PM
I didn't see in the article where the government damaged the school and the nursery, or where they set fires. The rioters did that, and need to be accountable for their actions. The government didn't force them to do anything.

The government illegally evicted the residents and tore down the building they were living in. The residents and their supporters then went on a rampage and destroyed some nearby buildings as payback. They're both wrong I suppose but the government drew first blood.

hadit
03-08-2007, 05:19 PM
The government illegally evicted the residents and tore down the building they were living in. The residents and their supporters then went on a rampage and destroyed some nearby buildings as payback. They're both wrong I suppose but the government drew first blood.

Saying "they did it first" doesn't excuse the reaction. These people are not 5 years old, just learning how to behave. If they wanted true payback, they should have damaged government buildings, not those where innocent people live, work, and learn. Now others who were never involved have to suffer the consequences of these peoples' actions.

Gary
03-08-2007, 05:57 PM
Saying "they did it first" doesn't excuse the reaction. These people are not 5 years old, just learning how to behave. If they wanted true payback, they should have damaged government buildings, not those where innocent people live, work, and learn. Now others who were never involved have to suffer the consequences of these peoples' actions.

The government acted recklessly and provoked these people which resulted in a riot. The surrounding neighbors should blame the government for causing the riot. Here's an example: If my neighbor pokes a stick at a bee hive and the bees fly over to my house and sting me I don't blame the bees, I blame my neighbor for pissing them off.

oki
03-08-2007, 08:00 PM
hadit, rioting is a form of outrage, its actually allmost war, on a small scale. theres no reason in such a situation, just animal agression. it does indicate the emotions involved in this. and the shools and nurseries are gouv. institutions in denmark, so they are destroying gouv. buildings.

Corporate Avenger
03-08-2007, 09:05 PM
hadit, rioting is a form of outrage, its actually allmost war, on a small scale. theres no reason in such a situation, just animal agression. it does indicate the emotions involved in this. and the shools and nurseries are gouv. institutions in denmark, so they are destroying gouv. buildings.


Yea, I don't get why people that love war would against a little rioting..

I don't know
03-09-2007, 05:57 AM
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I haven't noticed a lot of reports about casualties or deaths - are there any?

William Godwin, of England, wrote essays advocating an eventual society with minimal government that are considered by many to be some of the first, if not the first, anarchist treatises. As such, some consider the liberal British writer to be the "father of philosophical anarchism." There is a lack of consensus as to whether Godwin was an individualist or a communist, or indeed, an anarchist rather than a minarchist. He is regarded by some as one of the first individualist anarchists, although his philosophy has some communist-like characteristics. He advocates an extreme form of individualism, proposing that all sorts of cooperation in labor should be eliminated; he says: "everything understood by the term co-operation is in some sense an evil."[10]

Its starts here then forms into becoming a liberal.....- That's not "liberal" in the meaning you americans are used to - the original meaning (and the meaning used still in most of europe) is just "anti-authoritarianism" - in that sense you could say that libertarianism, for example, is radical liberalism. Anarchism would also be a kind of radical liberalism - but it really depends on what kind of anarchism we're talking about :\

flaming_liberal
03-09-2007, 06:06 AM
He's just copying and pasting from Wikipedia. Anarchism's origins go much further back than what is mentioned on wikipedia. Sorry.

oki
03-09-2007, 08:07 AM
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I haven't noticed a lot of reports about casualties or deaths - are there any?

no deaths, some wounded, nothing really serious I think. mostly damage.

oki
03-09-2007, 08:11 AM
He's just copying and pasting from Wikipedia. Anarchism's origins go much further back than what is mentioned on wikipedia. Sorry. I dont get that quote anyway, hes against all cooperation in labour, yet labelled as a possible communist? and then, as well as an anarchist, which is something else intirely, and called a liberal writer. my guss is that they throw in as many leftwing terms they could find, to not have to face he was really allmost a republican, lol.

flaming_liberal
03-09-2007, 10:26 AM
The guy's positions are really stupid.

Anarchism is different from anarchy, yet most folks are completely ignorant as to the difference. They also do not understand the difference between being philosophically liberal and linguistically liberal.

Criminal
03-09-2007, 03:50 PM
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/Violent_anarchists_converge_in_Copenhagen/20070305-093158-7197r/

"Anarchy is no more an expression of 'social discontent' than picking pockets or wife-beating."
-TR
If someone was evicting me from my home I would react the same way.

Denmark is actually a pretty civil society. In fact its among the most peaceful places on earth.

But then the right wingers took over, passed all these Fascist immigration laws and made things really hard for working people.

I wish that we had more stuff going on in my country (USA). The one good thing about Europeans is that they don't take abuse sitting down. When you push them too far they fight back. :nice:

Criminal
03-09-2007, 03:59 PM
When young anarchists and socialists stand up for what they believe in it scares conservatives such as yourself so I can understand your opposition. You are, after all, our enemy and we loathe you. The squatters were given the right to occupy the building many years ago but the current center-right government stabbed them in the back and sold the building. The riots aren't strictly about the building but are symbolic of a wider struggle against a capitalist establishment that has been increasingly eroding the Danish system with proposed reforms including raising the retirement age and trimming student grants. The Bush administration has been doing similar things in America but on a larger scale. American youth however, have been successfully opiated by MTV, right wing propaganda, fear, hatred, racism and a society that values material possessions over individual freedom among others things. I have faith however, that a new generation of American youth will soon rise up and put a stop to America's slide into a fascist police state.



I think they should shoot you :-)
:yeahthat:

Gary, I think you rock.

Denmark is truely a country where people know what freedom is about. I been there last summer and I can tell you, its the most laid-back society on earth.

It pisses me off to see americans (and young americans besides) be so willing to see out their freedom in the name of security.

I wonder what happened to the 60s. Once we had the country by the balls. We were young and strong. The man was scared of us cuz we knew where it was at. We stormed the campus admin building at Columbia, we took over at Berkley. Freedom was our cause, our religion and we were not going to back down. Some day were were going to inherit this sewer of a fascist, capitalist system and we did not want to wait.

The Panthars, Ceaser Chavez, the Pink Panthers, our sisters fighting with us for women's rights, our inmate brothers at Attica! It was all going on. We raised the fist and shouted "RIGHT ON".

What dreams had come. What dreams had passed.

Where did it all go????

Criminal
03-09-2007, 04:01 PM
danes - the new irish. :p

you remain consistent, dogb. :)
You know it sista....

Welcome back Spabby!:cool:

Criminal
03-09-2007, 04:02 PM
In 1982 the city gave the house to the youth of Copenhagen. In 2000, center-right politicians illegally sold the building. Therefore the youth of Copenhagen still own the building.
Property is theft.

- Paul Proudhon

hadit
03-12-2007, 09:17 AM
The government acted recklessly and provoked these people which resulted in a riot. The surrounding neighbors should blame the government for causing the riot. Here's an example: If my neighbor pokes a stick at a bee hive and the bees fly over to my house and sting me I don't blame the bees, I blame my neighbor for pissing them off.

Right. And what do I do to the bees? I kill them.

hadit
03-12-2007, 09:18 AM
Yea, I don't get why people that love war would against a little rioting..

Who loves war?

hadit
03-12-2007, 09:20 AM
:yeahthat:

Gary, I think you rock.

Denmark is truely a country where people know what freedom is about. I been there last summer and I can tell you, its the most laid-back society on earth.

It pisses me off to see americans (and young americans besides) be so willing to see out their freedom in the name of security.

I wonder what happened to the 60s. Once we had the country by the balls. We were young and strong. The man was scared of us cuz we knew where it was at. We stormed the campus admin building at Columbia, we took over at Berkley. Freedom was our cause, our religion and we were not going to back down. Some day were were going to inherit this sewer of a fascist, capitalist system and we did not want to wait.

The Panthars, Ceaser Chavez, the Pink Panthers, our sisters fighting with us for women's rights, our inmate brothers at Attica! It was all going on. We raised the fist and shouted "RIGHT ON".

What dreams had come. What dreams had passed.

Where did it all go????

Everybody grew up.

Gary
03-12-2007, 10:13 AM
Right. And what do I do to the bees? I kill them.

They fly way too fast. Even with a net or some chemical spray you wouldn't be able to get them all.

hadit
03-12-2007, 01:51 PM
They fly way too fast. Even with a net or some chemical spray you wouldn't be able to get them all.

Of course not, but you get the ones you can, and make sure the rest don't build a new nest in your house. You don't care what their provocation at your neighbor's was, you get them away from you because they're dangerous.

yuppy
03-12-2007, 02:25 PM
what a bunch of lazy *******s

anarchists are socialists, sot hey are close to liberals in that respect.

oki
03-12-2007, 06:13 PM
anarchists want low gouv. so tehya re close to republicans in that respect.

Criminal
03-16-2007, 01:56 AM
anarchists want low gouv. so tehya re close to republicans in that respect.
Yes and no.

Probibly more like Libertarians but unlike Libertarians they are opposed to the Capitalist system.

Anarchism is really a system which favors individual freedom, opposes government and supports collective ownership of wealth and property.

oki
03-16-2007, 08:06 AM
yea, I just wanted to show teh rediculousness in stating that anarchists are like liberals. per definition, anarchists are non- political.

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