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Jay GW 03-07-2007, 10:44 AM More than 30 Vermont towns passed resolutions on Tuesday seeking to impeach President Bush, while at least 16 towns in the New England state called on Washington to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq.
Known for picturesque autumn foliage, colonial inns, maple sugar and old-fashion dairy farms, Vermont is in the vanguard of a grass-roots protest movement to impeach Bush over his handling of the unpopular Iraq war.
"We're putting impeachment on the table," said James Leas, a Vermont lawyer who helped to draft the resolutions and is tracking the votes. "The people in all these towns are voting to get this process started and bring the troops home now."
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2007-03-07T121826Z_01_N06442424_RTRUKOC_0_US-BUSH-VERMONT-IMPEACH.xml&src=rss
Freedom&Liberty 03-07-2007, 11:23 AM Yet another example of liberal Sour Grapes.
Shadoglare 03-07-2007, 11:25 AM Known for picturesque autumn foliage, colonial inns, maple sugar...
And one of the most far-left legal systems in the nation. This surprised me very little, and I care even less.
enkahootz 03-07-2007, 12:01 PM well if vermont says so...
GROFF200 03-07-2007, 12:07 PM They have a right to make their opinions on the matter known. That doesn't mean you have to like it of course.
Monster 03-07-2007, 02:14 PM Also known for Ben & Jerry's! How could they forget to mention that?
And yeah, it doesn't really surprise me that this happened in Vermont. Personally, I think the warrantless wiretapping is more impeachable than the deployment of soldiers. But there's almost a 0% chance that we'll ever see anything.
Corporate Avenger 03-07-2007, 02:24 PM Also known for Ben & Jerry's! How could they forget to mention that?
And yeah, it doesn't really surprise me that this happened in Vermont. Personally, I think the warrantless wiretapping is more impeachable than the deployment of soldiers. But there's almost a 0% chance that we'll ever see anything.
Starting a war on false pretenses is pretty huge if you ask me.
None of the families of these Americans will ever see their loved ones again, somebody should tell them they just have "sour grapes"...:nonono:
02-Mar-2007 Specialist Christopher D. Young Safwan - Basrah Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
02-Mar-2007 Staff Sergeant Dustin M. Gould Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire
02-Mar-2007 Lieutenant Commander Morgan C. Tulang Kuwait City - NA Non-hostile - natural causes
02-Mar-2007 Staff Sergeant Paul M. Latourney Baghdad (northwest of) Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
05-Mar-2007 Private Barry Wayne Mayo Ba'qubah - Diyala Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
03-Mar-2007 Lance Corporal Raul S. Bravo Jr. Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
05-Mar-2007 Specialist Justin Rollins Samarra (near) - Salah ad Din Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
03-Mar-2007 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Baghdad Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
03-Mar-2007 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Baghdad Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
04-Mar-2007 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Tikrit (south of) - Salah ad Din Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
05-Mar-2007 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Samarra (near) - Salah ad Din Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
05-Mar-2007 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Samarra (near) - Salah ad Din Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
05-Mar-2007 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Samarra (near) - Salah ad Din Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
05-Mar-2007 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Samarra (near) - Salah ad Din Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
05-Mar-2007 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Ba'qubah - Diyala Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
05-Mar-2007 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Ba'qubah - Diyala Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
05-Mar-2007 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Samarra (near) - Salah ad Din Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
07-Mar-2007 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Baghdad (northwest of) Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
07-Mar-2007 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Baghdad (northwest of) Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
07-Mar-2007 NAME NOT RELEASED YET Baghdad (northwest of) Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
02-Mar-2007 Hospitalman Luke Emch Ramadi (near) - Anbar Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
02-Mar-2007 Specialist Luis O. Rodriguez-Contrera Baghdad (northwest of) Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
02-Mar-2007 Private Wesley J. Williams Baghdad Non-hostile - injury
03-Mar-2007 Sergeant Brandon Allen Parr Baghdad Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
http://icasualties.org/oif/US_chart.aspx
That's 24, just since the start of March, 6 days ago...:nonono:
3188 in total...
And yea, that's just one of the many reasons...
Monster 03-07-2007, 02:26 PM I agree, but I'm thinking more about a chance of success. Trying to impeach him for the Iraq war is going to be a lot harder than trying to impeach him for the wiretaps.
grimrebuke 03-07-2007, 02:47 PM I agree, but I'm thinking more about a chance of success. Trying to impeach him for the Iraq war is going to be a lot harder than trying to impeach him for the wiretaps.
The President is required to provide to Congress a state of the union. During this address, the President made several allegations that were found to be untrue. It is very likely from the evidence that has surfaced without the use of the Congressional subpeona that information was given to Congress that was factually inaccurate or that had relevant factual material intentionally omitted. While not under oath, the President did lie about material that was provided as part of the state of the union presented to Congress. In that respect, he failed in one of his Constitutional duties.
That being said, I dislike the precedent that would set, as Red Partymen would use that precedent on every single non-GOP President on every single word of every single statement before Congress. Instead, I'd like to see a special prosecutor investigate the matter of the case for war that the Congress voted upon and if the Congress was intentionally given bad information to ensure they would bestow the authority to make war onto the President. That action is, of course, a direct attack on the Congress as a body under the Constitution. That would allow the interviewing of the President, testimony under oath, and that would likely help shake out what the final impeachable crime would be.
Patrician 03-07-2007, 03:23 PM A bunch of aging hipsters in Vermont of all places trying to set national policy? HA!
ToeJam 03-07-2007, 03:32 PM This is going to go far. Yeah. Right.
Idiots. As much as you lefties cream about impeaching Bush, you have nothing to impeach him over. Move on and try to get your party, which now controls Congress, to do something meaningful rather than spending weeks doing nothing in attempts to offer non-binding resolutions....
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