I though Id post some of my favorite excerpts from The Turner Diaries here so everyone can discuss them. The Turner Diaries is a book written by a man named William Pierce who founded a group called the National Alliance you can get to their web page from the link on MANIAC88's profile if you want. The book is a fictional account of a white supremacist revolution that takes place in the US in the early 90's written in the form of the protagonist character's diaries. Anyway here goes:

"August 1, 1993. Today has been the Day of the Rope- a grim and bloody day, but an unavoidable one. Tonight for the first time in weeks, it is quiet and totally peacefull throughout all of southern California. But the night is filled with silent horrors; from tens of thousands of lamposts, power poles, and trees throughout this vast metropolitan area the grisly forms hang.

In the lighted areas one sees them everywhere. Even the street signs at intersections have been pressed into service, and at practically every street corner I passed this evening on my way to HQ there was a dangling corpse, four at every intersection. Hanging from a single overpass only about a mile from here is a group of about 30, each with an identical placard around its neck bearing the printed legend, 'I betrayed my race.' Two or three of that group had been decked out in academic robes before they were strung up, and the whole batch are apparently faculty members from the UCLA campus."

Right there on page 160. Wow hit a little close to home for anyone? Whaddya'll think of it? Ill post some more excerpts when i can stomach to open my copy again or maybe Maniac can post some too.


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"He could not plead want of employment, nor incapacity of getting his bread in an honest way, but frankly own'd it was to get rid of the disagreeable superiority of some masters he was acquainted with and the love of novelty and change."

William Defoe on Bartholomew Roberts career of piracy

Post the beginning of the book wich describes how these events came about. And remember its just fiction.


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"No longer will weaklings rule the White Man by lies and deceit, but, the warrior will make his comeback, and rule by strength, honesty and love for his race."


IAN STUART

[This message has been edited by maniac88 (edited 08-31-2001).]

From the Turner Diaries by William Pierce (he actually wrote the book under the pen name "Andrew Macdonald" because he was so chicken shit):

"Squads of our troops with sunchronized watches suddenly appeared in a thousand blocks at once, in fifty different residential neighborhoods, and every squad leader had a long list of names and addresses. The blaring music suddenly stopped and was replaced by the sound of thousands of doors splintering, as booted feet kicked them open.
It was like the Gun Raids of four years ago, only in reverse- and the outcome was both more drastic and more permanent for those raided. One of two things hapened to those troops dragged out onto the streets. If they were non-Whites - and that included all Jews and everyone who even looked like he had a bit of non-White ancestry - they were shoved into hastily formed columns and started their no return march to the canyon in the foothills north of the city. The slightest resistance, any attempt at back talk, or any lagging brought a swift bullet.
The Whites, on the other hand, were, in nearly all cases, hanged on the spot. One of the two types of pre printed placards was hung on the victims chest, his hands were quickly taped behind his back, a rope was thrown over a convienient limb oe signpost with the other end knotted around his neck, and he was then hauled clear of the ground with no further ado and left dancing on air while the soldiers went to the next name on their list."

Excuse me while i vomit, oh the placrads mentioned are revealed to say either: "I-defiled-my-race" or "I-betrayed-my-race"
All in the name of racial separatism.


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"He could not plead want of employment, nor incapacity of getting his bread in an honest way, but frankly own'd it was to get rid of the disagreeable superiority of some masters he was acquainted with and the love of novelty and change."

William Defoe on Bartholomew Roberts career of piracy

I've not heard of these diaries or william Pierce, but yeah, Hate Group would be an accurate description, even if somewaht understated.

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The truth is the hellhound that gnaws at the heels of those that lie and accuse you of oppressing them!

future Emperor in need of a cabinet(except Minister of Spanking)until then you can call me Chief!

Willie and Al smoke shrub but never inhaled!

Conservatives are RACIST-the world according to IAN.

Groups that tell the truth are "hate" groups -the world according to "Cosmo"

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Since when is tolerance of a bad thing, a good thing? - Me

Some things should be hated. - T/sun
:bang1

If you want to be accurate, groups that tell the truth are groups that tell the truth, hate groups are those thta advocate lynching people or killing them because of the color of their skin, religion or ethnic origin. I think the national Alliance qualifies.

That my young skinhead is the world according to Cosmo.

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The truth is the hellhound that gnaws at the heels of those that lie and accuse you of oppressing them!

future Emperor in need of a cabinet(except Minister of Spanking)until then you can call me Chief!

Willie and Al smoke shrub but never inhaled!

Conservatives are RACIST-the world according to IAN.

Cosmo, it is really scary how we are starting to agree a whole lot more. :-)

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Manu Narayan

Not really. You like a lot of others here stereotyped me early on. i identified myself as a Conservative Republican. What everybody heard by that is; i must hate homos, be a racist, a bigot,pro life, right wing christian, close minded, mean spirited and vicious. Did I leave anything out?

Truth is something different. I have learned, and it took most of my life to learn this, that people can hold many different ideas, and not because they are evil or stupid. Just different. My view of life is framed by my experiences. I have seen and done almost everything it is humanly possible to do.(My advancing age makes this possible) I have seen war firsthand, I have participated in it. I have seen peace too. I have seen poverty and great wealth. Common sense and lunacy. Love and hate. Great sadness and grief, and great happiness.I tend now to be more practical, not worry about problems I can't solve, and try to do things in such a way that when I meet my maker, he won't see in me the worst, but maybe a new improved model, far from perfect, but still trying.

I have many faults, among them I am intolerant of others in too many ways, not forgiving enough and extrememy vengeful(I think god is too busy sometimes, so I like to help out)I am also guilty of Pride.

Enough with waxing philosophical. I enjoy your posts and perspectives, even when they are different than mine.

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The truth is the hellhound that gnaws at the heels of those that lie and accuse you of oppressing them!

future Emperor in need of a cabinet(except Minister of Spanking)until then you can call me Chief!

Willie and Al smoke shrub but never inhaled!

Conservatives are RACIST-the world according to IAN.

Originally posted by Cosmo:
If you want to be accurate, groups that tell the truth are groups that tell the truth, hate groups are those thta advocate lynching people or killing them because of the color of their skin, religion or ethnic origin. I think the national Alliance qualifies.

That my young skinhead is the world according to Cosmo.



With all do respect, you said yourself that you have never heard of Dr. William Pierce or the National Alliance except for the limmited quotes posted by CodyChaos. I on the other hand I am quite aware of the beliefs of the National Alliance. They do not advocate genocide, but they advocate the resolve to fight against any threat to our people, here our abroad.

The quotes posted by CodyChaos are a tiny portion of a fictional novel. I have read the book, have you?

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Since when is tolerance of a bad thing, a good thing? - Me

Some things should be hated. - T/sun
:bang1

no Maniac, i did not read the book nor did i know who the author was/is. From what you describe it sounds like a hate group because it teaches that just by virtue of an accident of birth, one race is somehow more deserving than another. i also resent the fact that people associate me with people like you because i also hold different views than they, when in reality you and I cannot be more opposite. From a practical standpoint, my people were here first. We want our land back because quite frankly you people have really screwed it up.

Jeeeesh, they let anyone in nowadays.

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The truth is the hellhound that gnaws at the heels of those that lie and accuse you of oppressing them!

future Emperor in need of a cabinet(except Minister of Spanking)until then you can call me Chief!

Willie and Al smoke shrub but never inhaled!

Conservatives are RACIST-the world according to IAN.

Originally posted by Cosmo:
no Maniac, i did not read the book nor did i know who the author was/is. From what you describe it sounds like a hate group because it teaches that just by virtue of an accident of birth, one race is somehow more deserving than another. i also resent the fact that people associate me with people like you because i also hold different views than they, when in reality you and I cannot be more opposite. From a practical standpoint, my people were here first. We want our land back because quite frankly you people have really screwed it up.

Jeeeesh, they let anyone in nowadays.



Heh, hey Cosmo, you finally said something I can agree with http://discussanything.com/Ubb/smile.gif

-Patrick

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-William Blum

Cosmo just made me horny.

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"He'd watched her sleep with her fists clenched, tormented by nightmares of gleaming, blond archangels, implacable in their armor, as dogmatic as the God who made them march in time." ~Arturo Pérez-Reverte

Well I hope we cn some day find a cure.

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The truth is the hellhound that gnaws at the heels of those that lie and accuse you of oppressing them!

future Emperor in need of a cabinet(except Minister of Spanking)until then you can call me Chief!

Willie and Al smoke shrub but never inhaled!

Conservatives are RACIST-the world according to IAN.

Originally posted by Cosmo:
Well I hope we cn some day find a cure.



There's no cure for seksie, sweetcheeks.

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"He'd watched her sleep with her fists clenched, tormented by nightmares of gleaming, blond archangels, implacable in their armor, as dogmatic as the God who made them march in time." ~Arturo Pérez-Reverte

Well thank you!

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The truth is the hellhound that gnaws at the heels of those that lie and accuse you of oppressing them!

future Emperor in need of a cabinet(except Minister of Spanking)until then you can call me Chief!

Willie and Al smoke shrub but never inhaled!

Conservatives are RACIST-the world according to IAN.

Maniac, the problem is simply this. On the outside, you say you DON'T advocate killing, hating, or whatever. You're JUST trying to defend your country. These people and organizations that you defend may, at some level, proclaim they're just trying to defend whatever the racial cause of the day is. However, they're at least ASSOCIATED with groups/people that DO advocate violence.

It's like defending this guy's book. I'm sure it's a heart-warming tale and all . . . if you're in favor of an all-white United States. I'm sure there ARE some significant details and well-written angles, BUT the truth is that this is a book about a guy's dream about a white America . . . made white by killing off the other races. It's a lot like eating a turd. You can put sugar on it . . . baste it in a nice wine sauce . . . garnish it with suculent veggies and fruits . . . and serve it up with a great French (or American . . . whatever) wine, and, guess what? You're eating a turd.

Maybe YOU don't advocate killing all these people, but EVERYONE you bring up has some brochure, song, or whatever that talks about proactive violence. It doesn't help your arguments much, you know?

There are probably some people on this board who have had bad racial experiences. Okay, it happens. However, the "black gang" that attacked someone's aunt for a few bucks is not more or less criminal for the "white gang" who beats up a nice black family.

I look at it this way. God didn't differentiate who he sent his people out to testify to . . . nor who to accept in the Church. Who am I to believe that I am somehow more fit than someone else?

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Minister of Spanking

"I AM the lyrical Jesse James."

No cure . . . but I know some treatments for horny! LOL!

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Minister of Spanking

"I AM the lyrical Jesse James."

You know they do make something to put on your cornflakes.

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The truth is the hellhound that gnaws at the heels of those that lie and accuse you of oppressing them!

future Emperor in need of a cabinet(except Minister of Spanking)until then you can call me Chief!

Willie and Al smoke shrub but never inhaled!

Conservatives are RACIST-the world according to IAN.

Mmm...bananas...

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"He'd watched her sleep with her fists clenched, tormented by nightmares of gleaming, blond archangels, implacable in their armor, as dogmatic as the God who made them march in time." ~Arturo Pérez-Reverte