Chalk one more up for the thought police.

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By Bob Kellogg, correspondent

The Swedish government is moving toward prohibiting Christians from voicing biblical positions on issues.

The Swedish Parliament has moved to within one step of changing the nation’s constitution to ban speech or materials opposing homosexuality and any other alternate lifestyles. If the amendment becomes reality, violators could be subject to prison sentences.

Swedish lawmakers narrowly approved the constitutional amendment last week. Annalie Enochson, a Christian member of Parliament, said the homosexual lobby in Sweden is small but powerful. She noted the measure passed with only 56 percent of the vote.

"Usually, if you change the constitution it should be nearly everybody — I mean, it should be about 80 or 90 percent," Enochson said. "Fifty-six is very, very low."

The amendment must be voted on again after elections this September. If it passes again, it would become effective next January. Enochson said under the amendment, Christians could be arrested for speaking out in churches.

"That means people coming from (the homosexual) lobby group could sit in our churches having on the tape recorder and listen to somebody and say, 'What you're saying now is against our constitution.'"

She said anyone convicted of violating the constitutional amendment could spend six months to four years in jail.
Bob Knight, who heads the Culture and Family Institute at Concerned Women for America, predicted the United States will soon have similar laws.

"The Swedish example should be a wake-up call to the rest of the world that the real intent is to criminalize Christianity," Knight said.

Enochson added pro-homosexual activists will soon be lobbying to make homosexual marriages legal in Sweden.

http://www.family.org/cforum/fnif/news/a0021073.html

I support gay rights but if you ask me Sweeden is going way too far on this. You cannot protect any minority bu banning free speech. Germany has laws against displaying swastikas but it did not prevent many neo nazi groups from forming.

It kind of is already starting here too, isn't it?

"Usually, if you change the constitution it should be nearly everybody — I mean, it should be about 80 or 90 percent," Enochson said. "Fifty-six is very, very low."
And if it had lost by 56% she would have touted it as justice. :rolleyes:
Enochson said under the amendment, Christians could be arrested for speaking out in churches.
The vote didn't swing the way she wanted it to, so she resorted to the old public scare tactic. Since it has to be voted on again there is still a chance to sway the public into pressuring their officials.

The article is too biased to respond to with any real insight. It was written by a biased reporter, and featured a biased politician. Do you have a link to the amendment so we can read it in it's entirety? I'm sure it isn't as bad as what's written in this article. According to this article Parliment is going to wipe out their right to free speach. I sincerely doubt this is the case.

Originally posted by Ponycar_302

And if it had lost by 56% she would have touted it as justice. :rolleyes:

The vote didn't swing the way she wanted it to, so she resorted to the old public scare tactic. Since it has to be voted on again there is still a chance to sway the public into pressuring their officials.

The article is too biased to respond to with any real insight. It was written by a biased reporter, and featured a biased politician. Do you have a link to the amendment so we can read it in it's entirety? I'm sure it isn't as bad as what's written in this article. According to this article Parliment is going to wipe out their right to free speach. I sincerely doubt this is the case.

And it was put out by Focus On The Family,which is a biased group that often distorts and spins to fit it's agenda.

I am an absolutist when it comes to free speech. The FREE exchange of ideas and opinions can only make a society stronger.

I wish a larger percentage of the American public debated issues like we do on this web site.

Apathy is not only dangerous... it's boring too.

Originally posted by Cosmo
It kind of is already starting here too, isn't it?

You bet your a$$ it is.

"I dispise what you say, I would defend the death your right to say it". Sweden would do well to remember this.

The Iron Curtain of Political Correctness rules over Europe, Germany especially. Was that a thought crime?

Tim -- One can forgive germany for being paranoid. Is anyone going to forget Hitler in a hurry?

>>Tim -- One can forgive germany for being paranoid. Is anyone going to forget Hitler in a hurry?

How P.C. Hitler died around a half century ago, did anyone else notice?

PC? How can it be PC if almost noone agrees with me?
And Hitler's legacy lives on.

>>And Hitler's legacy lives on.

What is Hitler's legacy and how does it live on?

in the form of Jorg Haider, Jean-Marie Le Pen et al.

His legacy is one of nationalistic fervour, and authoritarianism, both displayed by JLP

>>in the form of Jorg Haider, Jean-Marie Le Pen et al.

I disagree. This is ridiculous. The Front National and the Freedom Party are anything but National Socialists. Anything it seems more conservative than the fanatic far trotskyite left in Europe appears to me to automatically equated with nazism which is nothing put pure political demonizing. The Front National opposes massive immigration into France, as does the Freedom Party, something that will be the THE ISSUE of the 21st Century given the European birthrate. These parties also believe that the EU socialist superstate might have a few flaws and that their national identity is worth preserving. These parties are nothing more than conservatives, not even as conservative as many Americans.

>>His legacy is one of nationalistic fervour, and authoritarianism, both displayed by JLP

I disagree. First I believe opposition to the dissolution of your national borders, your currency, and even the homogenity of your national ethnic makeup something that has been with you for centuries is completely and entirely natural, simply conservatism. Also the authoritarianism charge doesn't seem to hold water given that Le Pen is out there participating and winning in elections rather than rioting in the streets and burning flags like the fanatic Trotskyites Chirac had no problem sucking up too. Le Pen accepted defeat, his followers who support law and order were not rioting upon losing election (see. Communists)

Read "Death of the West" to appreciate what is happening in Europe and the US. Very informative. In the US, "The Disuniting OF America" is a very good read.

>>Read "Death of the West" to appreciate what is happening in Europe and the US. Very informative. In the US, "The Disuniting OF America" is a very good read.

I have a personal copy myself. I bought it the day it came out. I also have A Republic, not an Empire. I highly recommend it.

Originally posted by Timothy Price
ridiculous. The Front National and the Freedom Party are anything but National Socialists. Anything it seems more conservative than the fanatic far trotskyite left in Europe appears to me to automatically equated with nazism which is nothing put pure political demonizing.
With all due respect, to me anything to the left of Ashcroft arises cries of "commie! commie!" in the USA.
Originally posted by Timothy Price
The Front National opposes massive immigration into France, as does the Freedom Party, something that will be the THE ISSUE of the 21st Century given the European birthrate.
The growth rate of Europe's population is negative, so why is immigration a problem?
These parties also believe that the EU socialist superstate might have a few flaws and that their national identity is worth preserving.[/QUOTE] Wrong on three counts:

1) the EU is not socialist. Why do you say it is?

2) it is not a superstate. Why do you think it is?

3) the principles of Jean-Marie Le Pen do not uphold "Liberte, Egalite et fraternite" so therefore they do not uphold france's national identity. So how is he upholding france's national identity?
Originally posted by Timothy Price
These parties are nothing more than conservatives, not even as conservative as many Americans.
Well, if you think conservatism is about protectionism Americophobia and isolationism you are absolutely correct.
Originally posted by Timothy Price
I disagree. First I believe opposition to the dissolution of your national borders, your currency, and even the homogenity of your national ethnic makeup something that has been with you for centuries is completely and entirely natural, simply conservatism. (see above)Originally posted by Timothy Price Also the authoritarianism charge doesn't seem to hold water given that Le Pen is out there participating and winning in elections rather than rioting in the streets and burning flags like the fanatic Trotskyites Chirac had no problem sucking up too. Le Pen accepted defeat, his followers who support law and order were not rioting upon losing election (see. Communists) Hitler was participating and winning elections. Was he merely a misunderstood conservative? Secondly, Le Pen wanted a State of Emergency to deal with crime. How much more authoritarian can you get? Perhaps you could explain to me how this is not authoritarianism.

>>With all due respect, to me anything to the left of Ashcroft arises cries of "commie! commie!" in the USA.

It is ridiculous to equate democrats with Communists. I agree with you there. Ashcroft is also a religious zealot.

>>The growth rate of Europe's population is negative, so why is immigration a problem?

Try importing hundreds of millions of non-european immigrants into Europe, which has never experienced immigration like the United States has, within fifty years. That is a prescription for absolute disaster. Also Germany’s unemployment rate is over 10% I believe and its many of its skilled immigrant labourers are sitting fat on unemployment committing crime. A good example of this is France.

>>the EU is not socialist. Why do you say it is?

That was not to be taken literally. Take for example the reaction of the EU to the Freedom Party in Austria, that was what I was getting at.

>> 2) it is not a superstate. Why do you think it is?

Most major economic decisions are now made in Brussels rather than in the constituent nations.

>> the principles of Jean-Marie Le Pen do not uphold "Liberte, Egalite et fraternite" so therefore they do not uphold france's national identity. So how is he upholding france's national identity?

Since when has "Liberte, Egalite et fraternite" applied to non-French? Thomas Jefferson wrote that all men were created equal and endowed with inalienable rights but it is beyond ridiculous to suggest Jefferson ever himself believed in innate social equality, rather than equality before the law for citizens.

>>Well, if you think conservatism is about protectionism Americophobia and isolationism you are absolutely correct.

Anything is preferable to the dissolution of our national borders and the demographic annihilation of our society. America has never been *isolationist.* That was the language war mongers like Franklin Roosevelt used to deride people who put American first, rather than last. What does this have to do with Hitler and how was Hitler an isolationist?

>>(see above)

See above

>>Hitler was participating and winning elections. Was he merely a misunderstood conservative?

Umm Hitler did win elections. I believe it was Hinderburg who created the one party state.

>>Secondly, Le Pen wanted a State of Emergency to deal with crime. How much more authoritarian can you get?

We currently have 12 million undocumented aliens within the United States. That is almost double the size of Israel’s population. I would describe that as a state of emergency. As for Le Pen wanting to crack down and deal with crime, with criminals, murderers, rapists, and thieves, I have no toleration for those who believe they are above the law. Le Pen participated in an election. When he lost he conceded defeat and did not go out rioting. I do not see how Le Pen is a *Nazi.* That is even more ridiculous given his semitic son in law and the sheer number of Jews in the Front National.

>>Perhaps you could explain to me how this is not authoritarianism.

How is punishing criminals authoritarianism? Why should we have tolerance for criminals and why should a head of state like Chirac be commended for doing virtually nothing about the issue, neglecting his responsibilities as head of state? Is not the first purpose of the state, and of the head of state, to protect the citizens of the state?

E-frickin'-ghads!!! Thank God my paternal grandmother’s parents left Sweden in the 1880s...

That was a thought crime. I suggest the death penalty.

Originally posted by Truth Teller


And it was put out by Focus On The Family,which is a biased group that often distorts and spins to fit it's agenda.

Yeah, we should all stick rigidly to the MSNBC-Slate-Rather-Jennings-NYT unbiased reporting of just the facts! :D

Originally posted by Lowtide
I am an absolutist when it comes to free speech. The FREE exchange of ideas and opinions can only make a society stronger.

I wish a larger percentage of the American public debated issues like we do on this web site.

Apathy is not only dangerous... it's boring too.

I used to feel that way when I was your age,the more Matthew Sheppard's and James Byrd's I see make me rethink that postition.

Originally posted by Timothy Price
That was a thought crime. I suggest the death penalty.

To commit a thought crime one has to know how to think.

>>I used to feel that way when I was your age,the more Matthew Sheppard's and James Byrd's I see make me rethink that postition.

I used to hold your position, this was of course until I heard about all the thousands of non-Gay and non-Black victims of hate crimes which are completely ignored by the American public and mainstream media.

Originally posted by Timothy Price
>>I used to feel that way when I was your age,the more Matthew Sheppard's and James Byrd's I see make me rethink that postition.

I used to hold your position, this was of course until I heard about all the thousands of non-Gay and non-Black victims of hate crimes which are completely ignored by the American public and mainstream media.

I don't understand your point,plese expound?

Have there actually been a lot of James Byrds or Mathew Sheperds?

Originally posted by Cosmo
Have there actually been a lot of James Byrds or Mathew Sheperds?

Yes,they don't make the news but there are way too many.

>To commit a thought crime one has to know how to think.<

I believe this would be considered an insult to Mr Hamm..
I thought we were all trying to be more civil to one another around here without the insults and personal attacks?
Did you miss that TT?

Originally posted by RightWingZealot
>To commit a thought crime one has to know how to think.<

I believe this would be considered an insult to Mr Hamm..
I thought we were all trying to be more civil to one another around here without the insults and personal attacks?
Did you miss that TT?

Agreed.
Truth Teller - watch your words.

Even though we have that new policy, I am not going to close the thread yet. The debate is still going smoothly, and I trust that everyone can still act civil.

Originally posted by Timothy Price
Try importing hundreds of millions of non-european immigrants into Europe, which has never experienced immigration like the United States has, within fifty years.Britain alone accepts 2% of the world's illegal immigrants, and has just over 0.9% of the world's population. Not only that, but immigrants trek all the way across europe to get here. So immigration is not something Europe does not account for in its policies. Originally posted by Timothy Price That is a prescription for absolute disaster. Also Germany’s nemployment rate is over 10%...Well, i do agree that it is foolish to accept many immigrants when you already have a huge employment problem.Originally posted by Timothy Price ...I believe and its many of its [i]skilled immigrant labourers are sitting fat on unemployment committing crime. A good example of this is France. How have you come to this conclusion?Originally posted by Timothy Price
That was not to be taken literally. Take for example the reaction of the EU to the Freedom Party in Austria, that was what I was getting at. Ah, I see. Apologies if I misrepresented you. Basically, I do NOT think it was acceptable for the EU to complain about a democratic election. But then I think it is more a lesson in the dangers of Proportional Representation than in the rise of the far right. Originally posted by Timothy Price Most major economic decisions are now made in Brussels rather than in the constituent nations. But the EU is composed of those constituent nations, and they have a common interest, so where's the problem? Secondly, no-one is going to invade you if you want to pull out, and it is possible to opt out of many things as Britain has done numerous times.Originally posted by Timothy Price Since when has "Liberte, Egalite et fraternite" applied to non-French? Thomas Jefferson wrote that all men were created equal and endowed with inalienable rights but it is beyond ridiculous to suggest Jefferson ever himself believed in innate social equality, rather than equality before the law for citizens. Really? then what did he mean by CREATED?Originally posted by Timothy Price
Anything is preferable to the dissolution of our national borders and the demographic annihilation of our society. America has never been *isolationist.* That was the language war mongers like Franklin Roosevelt used to deride people who put American first, rather than last. What does this have to do with Hitler and how was Hitler an isolationist? No, no, no, no, no. I meant that Le Pen is not a conservative because he is an isolationist, not that conservatives are isolationists. Hitler was not an isolationist, but an imperialist. Other fascists however, such as Franco, Mosley and Metaxas, WERE isolationists. This the Le pen brand of fascism.Originally posted by Timothy Price Umm Hitler did win elections. I believe it was Hinderburg who created the one party state. Hindenburg tried and failed to establish a military dictatorship, not a one party state.Originally posted by Timothy Price We currently have 12 million undocumented aliens within the United States. That is almost double the size of Israel’s population. I would describe that as a state of emergency. As for Le Pen wanting to crack down and deal with crime, with criminals, murderers, rapists, and thieves, I have no toleration for those who believe they are above the law. Le Pen participated in an election. When he lost he conceded defeat and did not go out rioting. I do not see how Le Pen is a *Nazi.* That is even more ridiculous given his semitic son in law and the sheer number of Jews in the Front National. That is because the racist elements of the Jews serve his anti-islamic purposes.Originally posted by Timothy Price How is punishing criminals authoritarianism? Why should we have tolerance for criminals and why should a head of state like Chirac be commended for doing virtually nothing about the issue, neglecting his responsibilities as head of state? Is not the first purpose of the state, and of the head of state, to protect the citizens of the state? Punishing criminals is not authoritarianism, an unnecessary state of emergency is. A state of emergency would give Le Pen decree powers.

>>Britain alone accepts 2% of the world's illegal immigrants, and has just over 0.9% of the world's population. Not only that, but immigrants trek all the way across europe to get here. So immigration is not something Europe does not account for in its policies.

Yes the process has already begun. Given Europe’s negative birthrate it appears that mass immigration into Europe is inevitable. The social consequences of this will be enormous.

>>Well, i do agree that it is foolish to accept many immigrants when you already have a huge employment problem.

Given Germany’s aging population and its negative birthrate Germany doesn’t really have a choice. Lets take a look at Russia. Russia’s birthrate is so low that if it is held constant and without immigration it will lose half its population in fifty years. It appears massive immigration into Europe is inevitable, it also appears the backlash against it is just beginning.

>>How have you come to this conclusion?

A good percentage of Germany’s *skilled* immigrants remain unemployed. A good percentage of them are committing a disproportionate amount of crime, as in France.

>>Ah, I see. Apologies if I misrepresented you. Basically, I do NOT think it was acceptable for the EU to complain about a democratic election.

The Freedom Party won an election, a relatively moderate conservative party, and the EU thought police imposed economic sanctions to toppel its government. That is true fascism.

>> But then I think it is more a lesson in the dangers of Proportional Representation than in the rise of the far right.

This has more to do with the EU imposing sanctions on Austria because it did not like the outcome of its elections, not the coalition government the Freedom Party is a part of.

>>But the EU is composed of those constituent nations, and they have a common interest, so where's the problem?[i/]

The point is that these nations do not appear to me, and I am sure many Europeans to have a common interest, especially when the EU fascists attempt to crush self determination. It is perfectly natural for the Europeans to resent the dissolution of their nation states and the homogenization of their distinct national identities.

[i]>>Secondly, no-one is going to invade you if you want to pull out, and it is possible to opt out of many things as Britain has done numerous times.

The sanctions on Austria.

>>Really? then what did he mean by CREATED?

Jefferson believed all *citizens* should be equal before the law for justice would be impartial. Of course Jefferson himself owned slaves and did not believe women, who were citizens, should be voting. This is well documented.

>>No, no, no, no, no. I meant that Le Pen is not a conservative because he is an isolationist, not that conservatives are isolationists.

I do not think Le Pen is an isolationist, I just think he does not want France being a tag along to America’s belligerent war against the world. Le Pen is putting France first, rather than last. I believe that is a responsibility as a head of state, some do not.

>> Hitler was not an isolationist, but an imperialist. Other fascists however, such as Franco, Mosley and Metaxas, WERE isolationists.

I think Spain staying out of the Second World War was a good decision for the Spanish.

>>This the Le pen brand of fascism.

Le Pen is not a Fascist, Le Pen is a Frenchman. Some people seem to have a problem with that, I do not. Le Pen is tired of France being a prostrate tag along state, crippled by political correctness. Nationalism is not Fascism. The real fascists in France are the radical Trotskyites no one seems to be complaining about.

>>Hindenburg tried and failed to establish a military dictatorship, not a one party state.

Yes this is true. Hindenburg used Article 48 to declare a state of emergency and Hindenburg appointed Hitler chancellor.

>>That is because the racist elements of the Jews serve his anti-islamic purposes.

Islamic immigrants in France commit a huge portion of the crime. I still don’t understand how Le Pen can be a Nazi with so many Jews in his party, and in his family too.

>>Punishing criminals is not authoritarianism, an unnecessary state of emergency is. A state of emergency would give Le Pen decree powers.

I support Le Pen wanted to take action to rid the nation of the criminals the paralyzed politically correct Chirac had tolerated.

>>Have there actually been a lot of James Byrds or Mathew Sheperds?

The point I was making is that because Matthew Sheperd was gay and because James Byrd was black and because they were both victims of hate crimes a huge big deal was made out of in the media. However in the overwhelming majority of cases, when someone who is not some kind of minority is a victim of a hate crime, there is utter media silence. Take for instance the Texas case a few months ago. A few months ago four black men in Jasper Texas, the same town where James Byrd was killed, ran over a white man, over and over again, using racial slurs, murdering him. Utter silence in the media.

Originally posted by Timothy Price
>>Have there actually been a lot of James Byrds or Mathew Sheperds?

The point I was making is that because Matthew Sheperd was gay and because James Byrd was black and because they were both victims of hate crimes a huge big deal was made out of in the media. However in the overwhelming majority of cases, when someone who is not some kind of minority is a victim of a hate crime, there is utter media silence. Take for instance the Texas case a few months ago. A few months ago four black men in Jasper Texas, the same town where James Byrd was killed, ran over a white man, over and over again, using racial slurs, murdering him. Utter silence in the media.

Since 9-11 everything else has taken a back seat in media coveragre.

Are you saying the media should cover every bias murder?

The fact is many more blacks and gays have been lynched since Matthew Shepard and James Byrd and they haven't gotten any national media coverage either.

If you're crying "conspiracy" then you should say who you think is behind this "conspiracy" and why?

Heads up!!!

This is already a law in Canada.

There are ministers, priests and many other people in jail because of this type of nonsense.

Dont think for a moment they wont try it here in the good ol' USA under some guise of hate crime.

Are you saying the media should cover every bias murder?

Or not give so much biased attention to just one...

The fact is many more blacks and gays have been lynched since Matthew Shepard and James Byrd and they haven't gotten any national media coverage either.

Yeah so? Many whites and heteros have been killed as well. That is something you simply don't hear about in the news, period.

If you're crying "conspiracy" then you should say who you think is behind this "conspiracy" and why?

No, just crying biased media.

>>Since 9-11 everything else has taken a back seat in media coveragre.

9-11 was a long time ago. Still, the fact that because James Byrd was black and because Matthew Sheppard was gay, for that reason and that reason only a huge big deal was made out of it. However when the victim of a brutal hate crime (more so than either of those cases), is simply for example a normal heterosexual white male or female, there is utter silence in the media. This is what happens in the overwhelming majority of cases, yet it seems the lives of minorities and homosexuals are MORE important or in some way SPECIAL.

>>Are you saying the media should cover every bias murder?

It seems to me the Media creates a false impression by not reporting the news fairly. Incidents such as these are used to drum up support for this so called hate crimes legislation even though the overwhelming majority of the victims are in no way some kind of minority.

>> The fact is many more blacks and gays have been lynched since Matthew Shepard and James Byrd and they haven't gotten any national media coverage either.

The fact is that MORE heterosexual whites have been the victims of racial or sexual hate crimes BY FAR than these minorities yet this is ALWAYS ignored and NEVER talked about. I suppose these people are simply victims of politically incorrect hate crimes.

>>If you're crying "conspiracy" then you should say who you think is behind this "conspiracy" and why?

Its quite simple, the fact is that minorities commit a huge portion of hate crimes, the fact that it is politically incorrect to report these incidents results in them being ignored in the Media. Would you like me to do a special about victims of politically incorrect hate crimes?

>>Or not give so much biased attention to just one…

Lets have an experiment. Lets say tomorrow a gay man was murdered by three skinheads, hung or something, out of racial hatred. Now lets suppose a normal heterosexual white man was brutally murdered by three black males out of racial hate, being decapitated with acid poured on his face. Which one of these stories do you suppose you would see on television? Honestly?

>> Yeah so? Many whites and heteros have been killed as well. That is something you simply don't hear about in the news, period.

You are right, it is COMPLETE and UTTER silence. Not a peep, even when these murders are obviously racially motivated and 1000x more brutal.

Originally posted by Truth Teller



The fact is many more blacks and gays have been lynched since Matthew Shepard and James Byrd and they haven't gotten any national media coverage either.



Truth t$Eller, this is the prime reason people say your name is an oxymoron. Can you name three lynchings which would be only one more, let alone many more? this is really wishful thinking on your part. You dewstroy any validity you may have when you make up stuff like this.

>>Truth t$Eller, this is the prime reason people say your name is an oxymoron.

LOL, Good Point.

Originally posted by Cosmo


Truth t$Eller, this is the prime reason people say your name is an oxymoron. Can you name three lynchings which would be only one more, let alone many more? this is really wishful thinking on your part. You dewstroy any validity you may have when you make up stuff like this.

Recent victims of lynchings the media didn't report: Abdo Alli Ahmed 51 of Reedly ,California,murdered because he was a Muslem.

Kennith Chiu,17 of Laguna Hills, California ,murdered because he was Asian.

Marcell Eads 58 of Wichata,Kansas,murdered because he was gay.

Edgar Garzon ,35 of Queens New York,murdered because he was gay.

Waqar Hasan, 46 of Dallas ,Texas,murdered becasue he was a Muslem.

I should add that despite what Cosmo believes this isn't "made up",my source is the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Willie Houston,38 of Nashville ,Tennesee murdered because his murderer thought he was gay [which he wasn't].

Adel Karas,48 of San Gabriel, California ,murdered because his murderer thought he was a Muslem[in fact Karas was an Arab but his religion was Coptic Orthodox Christian which was a persecuted church in Egypt,which was why he came to the U.S.].

Antony Martilotto ,39 of Fort Lauderdale,Florida,murdered because he was gay.

Fred C. Martinez Jr.,16 of Cortez,Colorado,murdered because he was gay.

Abdulah Nimer.53 of Los Angles,California,murdered because he was an Arab.

There are many more murdered because of their race,sexual orentation or religion but I don't have the time to type them up.

When you said lynchings, I thought you meant lynchings. When you say blacks are lynched, it carries a special connotation. Now just to be fair, why didnt' you list the hate crimes agianst American Indians?

But whats this got to do with Hate Crime Laws? Were the murederers in the cases you listed caught, tried and convicted?