My point is that Israel does not need to exist for protection of the Jews, anymore than Africa needs to exist for the protection of African Americans.
Oh really? You don't have a clue about the things you are talking, eh?
You really don't have a clue!

This article was published by Itamar Aichner in Yediot Achronot at 24.11.06:
A raise in the violent attacks against Jews

The number of attacks of anti-semite backgrounds in the arrea of New York has raised in the last year in 28% - from 74 physical and verbal attacks last year, to 95 attacks this year. This surprising datum was published by the New York Post, which relys on datums of the New York police.

According the report, in the last year there was a raised of 8% of "hate crimes". The main offended from these crimes are Jews and gays, but the raise in the rate of the hate crimes includes also crimes against blacks, Muslims, Asians and Hispanics. 230 cases of verbal and physical violence were reported to the New York police since January 1st till November 5th, compared to 214 last year. In the violence against gays there was a raised of 20%, from 39 incidents to 47.
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This article was also published by Itamar Aichner in Yediot Achronot at 24.11.06:
And where does the anti-semite literature is being sold? At the parliament

The presidnet of Ukraine, Victor Yushchenko, declared couple of times in the past that he will fight in the anti-semitism in his country, but he doesn't have to go far to search for anti-Jewish instigation. In the parliament in Kiev there is a book shop which sells the best of the anti-semite litrature. According to the Jewish parliament member, Alexander Feldman, it's available to buy in the shop the "Protocols of the elders of Zion", the book "The Jewish Syndrome" of Eduard Kodos and couple of anti-semite publications of M.A.O.P college of Kiev, which is known as the biggest supplier of anti-semite material in Ukraine. The Jewish community submited an official protest to the authorities and demanded them to prohibit the selling of such litrature in the book shop of the parliament.
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German Jews: Atmosphere like 1930s

Copies of Anne Frank's diary burned at Neo-Nazi parties, Ethiopian youth beaten because of his ethnicity, student humiliated because of his association with Jews. These are only some manifestations of the rise in Neo-Nazi and anti-Semitic violence in Germany. Jewish community leaders say dangerous trend is being ignored by government Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3316778,00.html)

Australia: Record for anti-Semitic incidents

Australian Jews reported more anti-Semitic incidents in July than in any other month

Australian Jews reported more anti-Semitic incidents in July than in any other month since records began, according to the Executive Council of Australian Jewry (ECAJ). Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3300513,00.html)

British Parliament reports sharp rise in anti-Semitism

London law firm Mishcon de Reya in partnership with the Parliamentary Committee Against Anti-Semitism hosted a panel forum on Wednesday to discuss the All-Party Parliamentary Inquiry into Anti-Semitism, a report released in September which showed a sharp rise in anti-Semitism in the UK. Full article inside (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1162378307471&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)

Extremists plan mass Prague murders

According to Czech paper, Islamic extremists plot to kidnap, then kill Jews in synagogue in nation's capital

Islamic extremists planned to kidnap dozens of Jews in Prague and hold them hostage before murdering them, the daily Mlada Fronta Dnes reported on Friday. Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3311740,00.html)

Israelis in Budapest: We live in fear

Jewish Agency reports of sharp rise in number of anti-Semitic incidents around world, especially in Eastern Europe. On Saturday, Israeli students attacked by metro inspector in Hungarian capital simply for speaking Hebrew

A grim picture. In the recent period there has been a sharp and drastic surge in the number of anti-Semitic incidents in Eastern Europe. Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3327783,00.html)

Jewish school smashed up in Austria, man arrested

Vienna police arrest suspect for breaking into, vandalizing Jewish school in town Saturday night. Jewish community leader Ariel Muzicant: incident is very disturbing. No doubt an anti-Semitic act, done out of rage, hatred Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3332889,00.html)

London woman recalls violent anti-Semitic attack

Linda Cohen was serving drinks in her north London cafe one Sunday evening when two men stormed in, held a knife to her stomach and screamed that they would kill her for being a "stinking, dirty Jew" Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3300788,00.html)

Report shows anti-Semitism on the rise

Press conference by Jewish Agency reveals startling rise in anti-Semitic incidents across the world in 2006, including two murders. Austria sees 66 percent rise in incidents, Germany sees 60 percent rise, Russian incidents up by 20 percent Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3358000,00.html)

Russia synagogue vandalized

Leading Jewish group reports unidentified assailants paint swastikas, extremist slogans on Vladivostok synagogue

A leading Jewish organization reported Thursday that unidentified assailants painted swastikas and extremist slogans on a synagogue in a Russian Far Eastern city. Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3320129,00.html)

SIGN OF THE TIMES: Jewish Girl Beaten Unconscious on London Bus

JTA reports that a 12-year old Jewish girl, a passenger on a London bus, was beaten unconscious by four other girls, while three boys stood guard during the attack to prevent interference. The attackers asked the victim if she was Jewish before they attacked her. A friend of the victim, who was wearing rosary beads, was not harmed. Full article inside (http://hedgehogcentral.********.com/2006/08/sign-of-times-jewish-girl-beaten.html)

UK: Swastikas on donations to Israel

British Jews sent donations to Israel, but the checks arrived with swastikas painted on them. The Royal Mail promises to probe

The Royal Mail this week promised to launch an investigation after Totally Jewish discovered that donations sent from Jews in London to a charity in Israel were being daubed with swastikas en route to their destination. Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3290446,00.html)

Vienna: Man admits vandalizing Jewish school

Man probably a Croatian from Zagreb who came to Vienna as a tourist a week ago

A man in police custody admitted vandalizing a Jewish school in Vienna, an investigator said Monday. The man, whose name has not been released, is probably a Croatian from Zagreb who came to Vienna as a tourist a week ago, said Andreas Krajcsy of the Vienna police's section on state protection and anti-terrorism. Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3333502,00.html)

Jewish graves vandalized in Russia

Vandals painted swastikas on more than 100 Jewish and Tatar gravestones in a central Russian city and overturned many others - the latest in a string of anti-Semitic, racist and hate crime vandalism across the nation, police officials said Wednesday. Full article inside (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1159193369653&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)

Shots fired at Oslo synagogue

At 2:30 a.m., perpetrators fire gunshots at synagogue in Norway’s capital from passing car; police open investigation. Jewish Oslo resident tells Ynet: Since war in Lebanon atmosphere here has become unpleasant for Jews Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3304849,00.html)

This small article (http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/7284/jkjh88vf0.jpg) was published in the Israeli newspaper Yediot Achronot on 24/10/06:
Tanks in the streets of Budapest

Severe confrontations broke out in the center of the Hungarian capital between tens of thousands of demonstrators to heavy forces of the police who fired tear gas. Tens were wounded and according to reports which weren't verified yet one demonstrator was killed. The demonstrators demanded from the government to resign. Part of the demonstrators gathered infront of the big synagogue in Dohani street and shouted anti-semite slogans like: "Run away together with the bloody Jews". The Hungarian radio reported that many tourists and Israelis amongst them found it difficult to get back to their hotels.

Iranian Jews sue ex-president Khatami

Seven families residing in Los Angeles and Israel, who say their missing relatives were kidnapped and tortured by Iranian government, sue country's former president, delivering summons to him directly during his US visit Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3301754,00.html)

Yemenite Jews flee due to threats

Forty-five Jews in a village just north of the Yemeni capital, Sanaa, were forced to leave their homes this week due to threats from radical Muslims. Full article inside (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1167467787833&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)

This article was written by Itamar Aichner and was published in Yediot Achronot at 24.11.06
Berlin: the police protect a Jewish girl from the Muslim pupils

Is it frightening again to be a Jew in Berlin? A 14 years old Jewish girl, former Israeli, has to arrive each day to school with a police escort which protect her from harassments of Arab and Muslim pupils who study with her. The distance from her house to the school is 700 meters.

The story of Ana (alias name) was published yesterday in the German TV and upon a whole page in the newspaper "Bild". The girl, born in Russia, moved with her parents to Israel and stayed there for 5 years untill they immigrated to Germany. She is living in the Kroytzberg quarter in the center of Berlin which consider to be a very problematic arrea. 40% of the population in the quarter isn't German and most of it is Muslim.

For years Ana hide from her friends to the class the fact she is Jewish and the fact that she was living 5 years in Israel. But before the summer vacation she revealed the fact that she is Jewish and the troubles started from this point. The pupils, most of them are Arabs and Muslims, have started to harass her. In an interview with her, she told that they started to throw names at her like "dirty Jew" and "**** Jew". The peak came in the time of the war in Lebanon. Couple of Arab pupils, some of them from Lebanese extraction, harassed her and blamed her for the IDF's bombing in Lebanon. Couple of pupils even hit her and mainly 2 girls from her class that according the publication, have abused her.

The school reported this matter to the police of Berlin and the police attached a police escort to the girl to prevent the harassments. Couple of days after, the girl moved to other school and the police escort has stopped. But the harassments continued. The same 2 girls who hit her in the former school, ambushed her on her way home back from school and hit her again. At this point, the police returned and attached her an escort on her way back from school.

The spokesman of the police of Berlin have said in response, that the police will continue to escort the Jewish girl, and at the same time there is an investigation against the attacking girls. Gideon Yofe, the president of the Jewish community in Berlin said that it's worrisome that Jews can't reveal their identity in publicity.

The Israeli ambassador in Germany, Shimon Shtein, have said recently that the Jews in Germany don't feel secure. "They can't always behave according their religion in a free way, and the heavy security methods, arround the synagogues and Jewish institutions in Germany, can prove it", the ambassador added. In an interview to a German newspaper, which was quoted all over the world, the Israeli ambassador have said that he is worried from the raising power of the radical right organizations in Germany and from the raise of anti-semitism. According to him, these trends are very worrisome and he calls for the whole German society to wake up.

The German ministry of the interior has published recently details in which in the first 8 months of the year there was an increasing of 20%, comparing to the same period in 2005, in the racist criminal deeds from neo Nazis: 8000 compared to 6605, respectively. In comparison to 2004 it's an increasing of 50%. According to the ministry of interior, in Germany there are about 40,000 radical right activists.
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As long as Jews will continue to live abroad, in countries which are not their true home so they will continue to suffer from anti-semitism.

"and ye shall be unto Me a kingdom of priests, and a holy nation."

"and have set you apart from the nations, that ye should be Mine."

Jews from UK and USA who arrived to Israel are saying:

"I'm going home," says British-born Sharon. "It's a place that I have wanted to go for many years. My mother is Israeli and our family have survived there for many years in difficult times. But I am also going for the good times."

"To say you are a Jew because of your religion is not the whole story. You are part of a people with a shared history and culture. It's the story of a Jewish civilisation to want to return to Israel."

"I know we have our Jewish community here but Israel, its environment is much larger. I don't want people to think that I am some kind of religious zealot, because I'm not, but Israel has kedushah - a holiness of the soil - that makes me feel closer to God."

"We believe that this is our country we are going to and that gives us protection. I could get on the Tube tomorrow here in London and the risks are the same."

People are wonderful to you," he says. "You're not a 'bloody immigrant' - none of that talk you get here in England. You're someone coming home who hears: 'Baruch haba! Welcome here!
Full article inside (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4797425.stm)

"In America, we are living on borrowed time. This isn’t really our home. The one and only place a Jew can be a Jew without explaining anything is Israel. That is our true home, our history, and our holidays,"
Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3344524,00.html)

orangikan, is there a possibility that you are one of these anti-semites who support all these kinds of hate crimes against the Jews?

Sam Silvester (his family name isn't a Jewish one but the migration clerk in England gave this name to his great-grandfather when he arrived to England because his original family name was something like Schivartiarshtein) is a well known Jewish lawyer who represented the Beatles and Paul Mcartney. He is living in Israel in the last 11 years. He gave an interview to Yuval Heiman in the Israeli Maariv newspaper at 15.12.06, here is a paragraph in which he talks about the anti-semitism in England:

Sam and Carol Silvester made Aliya to Israel 11 years ago and settled down in Ein Kerem after he got his benefit (pension). During 30 years before they did Aliya they had a flat in Netanya and they were staying in this flat at least 3 times a year. They always wanted to settle down in Israel, the only question was when and how to do it. They have 3 children, all of them are religious, 2 of them are living in Israel. Their son, Gideon is a Rabbi in Jerusalem. "Even after 8 generations in England I didn't feel completely at home", he is telling, "I don't even think that someone expected that I would feel completely at home. The English anti-semitism is very polite that you don't feel the knife penetrates untill you see blood on the floor."

Q: Do you have an example?

A: "I'll give you a magnificent example. A client has come to see me and told me that he always wanted a smart Jewish lawyer. But the meaning of the word 'smart' was in fact 'cunning', and the meaning of the word 'Jewish' was in fact 'a bastard'. Do you understand? It's all very polite, everything is very lovely. In the first 2 years of mine in West Minister, I had to tell my class mates that I didn't kill Jesus, that I wasn't there and that it's not my fault."

His first acquaintance with the horrors of the world he was at the age of 12 in a London cinema, there he saw the terror of the holocaust. A year later he saw how the British mandate sending back to Germany ships of Maapilim which arrived to the shores of Israel. In the time that he told about it, the tears strangled his throat: "When I saw my soldiers and my sailors", he said in great sadness, "I couldn't believe. I couldn't believe that a human being can do such thing after what the Jews been through in the holocaust. I was in deep shock."

"I feel that all that have happened in Israel needed to be my story. The 2000 years that I was living in the exile are the most worst waste of time. I'm an old fashioned Zionist. I know it's not fashion anymore in a post Zionist world, there are still couple of people that believe in devotion that there needs to be a Jewish state in this small piece of land, in such a big world. The fact that all the world is hostile us is a farce. It's ridiculous. In the time of the Intifada, when the most of our haters in Europe spoke against Israel, I found a wonderful solution. All that we had to do is telling the French, the British and the other Europeans that we are coming back. You can describe to yourself how they would have react."

Later on he was asked: "Where is better, here or in England?"

A: "Here is much better, with no doubt. If I want to eat kosher, I have where to eat. I love very much Jews and Judaism. I come from a wonderful nation with a great philosophy."

"When I talk with people in England, when I visit there and they ask me about Israel, I always direct them to "Alice in wonderland" of Luis Carol. I ask them to tell me what their opinion about Israel, I'm taking the name 'Israel' and replace it with 'England'. And then the story sounds like this: England is being bombed from France with 500 missiles each day, how much time do the English will relate to it in patient? Everyday, French terrorists are entering England and they bomb themselves in busses. What England supposed to do? And they answer right away: "We will make laws against it, we won't suffer it." It's amazing how much fast they change when I do it."

Q: Why do (non Jews in general) hate us so much?

A: "It doesn't matter if you are a secular or religious. The Jews brought to the world the concept of God and of good and of bad. The world is trying to keep a certain standard. When it fails he can't kick God because he can't see him, so he kicks his representative. This is what Prof. Stainer wrote in one of his books."

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True dat.

Jesus Christ.

he was a jew too.

Jesus walks into the Inn and hands the innkeeper 3 nails and says "Can you put me up for the night?"

Sorry, Jacob but look at it this way, Muslims have become the Jews of the 21st Century. They even have the President of the United States trying to wipe them out (with the tacit approval of the people of the US).

Sam Sylvester's story is completely personal. He practised successfully in England for enough years to be able to retire to Israel, most of the "anti-semitism" he experienced was totally subjective.

Bottom line on that. If I were involved in a court case I would LOVE to have a Jewish lawyer. Because they are aggressive (acting out???) and rapacious (anxious to win their case???) - wouldn't a Jewish lawyer take that as a compliment?

such a long post to explain that jews suck at life

Eh ?

little advice, jacob. post one of 2 of those, and people might actually read them.

I wouldn't even read something so meaningless and long if I was stuck in a prison cell.

such a long post to explain that jews suck at life

I haven't seen you post anything positive or friendly yet.

M.

I haven't seen you post anything positive or friendly yet.

M.

Is that a TOS prerequisite?

Is that a TOS prerequisite?

No... I'm just saying. Maybe Yuppy doesn't want to make friends here, but if he does, I just thought I'd give some helpful feedback.

I've noticed the reponse he is getting from a lot of members here, and it is negative in proportion to the negativity of his posts.

That's all...

M.

Sorry, Jacob but look at it this way, Muslims have become the Jews of the 21st Century.
You compare the Jews to psycho Islamo-facists who want to spread their psycho dreams and violence all over the world?

Did Jews blow themselves up in restaurants, busses and clubs in Europe?
Did the Jews threat to force their false dreams all over the world?
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Cleric: Flag of Islam to fly from Big Ben

Islamic fundamentalist Omar Bakri, who led extremist group in London and escaped after bombings in city, warns that Britain will turn into 'Islamastan'

Islamic fundamentalist cleric Omar Bakri has warned that "the day will come that the flag of Islam will fly over the Big Ben and the British Parliament." Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3273120,00.html)

Jihadist site: Soccer is against Islam

UK jihadists attack 'religion of soccer,' warn Muslims against taking part in 'colonial crusader scheme'

A British jihadist website has warned Muslims against being drawn in to what they described as "the new religion of soccer." Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3265595,00.html)

UK site: Can we help dying infidel?

Jihadist websites discuss 'dilemmas,' respond to London anti-terror operation by attacking 'filthy infidels'

Internet sites run by young extremist Muslims in Britain and other Western countries have begun reacting to the anti-terror operation in London in which a 23 year-old suspect was shot. Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3258963,00.html)

Jihadists issue threat to UK

Islamist websites: 'The British government is playing with a dangerous fire, and the fire when played with will burn you or will give you a shock'

A new message appearing on a number of jihadi websites in the UK has warned the British government that "it is playing with a dangerous fire." Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3251505,00.html)

British Muslim group declares new jihad

A Ynetnews investigation has uncovered online recruitment of British Muslims for participation in terror attacks; 'We should give them another magnificent day in history' threatens one man

A declaration of war on Britain and the West is continuing to be issued by British Muslims in the United Kingdom, as the pro-jihad message of Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad, recently banned from Britain, is echoed by his followers who have remained behind. Full article inside (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3156809,00.html)

The jews in Germany were not running around preaching death to the infidels. Nor where they in front embassies burning a effigy of their president and suggesting that Germany should be nuked. Nor where they bombing churches or synagogues and nor were they sending in suicide bombers to blow up innocent civilians.

I think people have a legitimate reason to be cautious, after all the only Muslims we see protesting are usually terrorist supporters, occasionally we might see someone who looks about as Muslim as a Swedish person looks native American talking about how these are only radicals or a few bad apples and how it doesn't reflect Islam as a whole, but we do not see "regular" Muslims protesting against the actions of these animals.

Another mistake you did is that Islam is not a race nor an ethnic group. Jews are. People have all the rights to disike Islam and its false dreams. If you hate Islam then you are not a racist but a true human who don't like bad things.

They even have the President of the United States trying to wipe them out (with the tacit approval of the people of the US).
Bullshit!!

jews were accused of taking over countries, organising revolutions, controlling banks, entertainment lots more. now muslims are accused of all beeing terrorists.
the result is teh same, massive discrimination these people.

I think the responses in this thread are starting to prove Jake correct.

Face of Jacob, YOU and your Zionist cohorts are the reason some people dislike Jews in general. If you didn't go around telling everyone that you're "God's Chosen People", and use that as a justification to take land away from God's Unwanted Stepchildren, then maybe people wouldn't have a problem with you.

Q: Why do (non Jews in general) hate us so much?

A: "It doesn't matter if you are a secular or religious. The Jews brought to the world the concept of God and of good and of bad. The world is trying to keep a certain standard. When it fails he can't kick God because he can't see him, so he kicks his representative. This is what Prof. Stainer wrote in one of his books."

that's ridiculous, and he is delusional.

but when you believe that you are god's chosen people and the entire universe was created just for you...well, i suppose it is enough to give anyone such thoughts.

Face of Jacob, YOU and your Zionist cohorts are the reason some people dislike Jews in general. If you didn't go around telling everyone that you're "God's Chosen People", and use that as a justification to take land away from God's Unwanted Stepchildren, then maybe people wouldn't have a problem with you.

That's ****ing bullshit. They are clearly God's chosen people, living on the land they were given to by GOD, the same place were, gasp, the first II temples were built until lo and beyold some filthy subhumans conquered it, took over the place and built that mosque of satan. So who's the real victim here?

The palestinians are a undeducated, violent mob that should be removed at gunpoint.

but when you believe that you are god's chosen people and the entire universe was created just for you...well, i suppose it is enough to give anyone such thoughts.

THAT IS NOT WHAT GOD MEANS OR WANTS. Didn't any of you people ever attend Sunday school or read something remotely having to do with the history of the jews, the bible etc. You folks carry on like blathering idiots. If I thought for one second that God intends what you just wrote I'd hate God.

That's ****ing bullshit. They are clearly God's chosen people, living on the land they were given to by GOD, the same place were, gasp, the first II temples were built until lo and beyold some filthy subhumans conquered it, took over the place and built that mosque of satan. So who's the real victim here?

The palestinians are a undeducated, violent mob that should be removed at gunpoint.


lol. how are they clearly god's chosen people? didn't they kill god's only son?

Jesus walks into the Inn and hands the innkeeper 3 nails and says "Can you put me up for the night?"


great movie. :nice:

lol. how are they clearly god's chosen people? didn't they kill god's only son?

Your ignorance is vast on this particular subject so much so that I'm really not sure it's worth the time to prove to you that the jews are god's chosen people. Put simply it all started and it all ends with the jews and there has never been a time in history where that statement is more true than the present.

great movie. :nice:

You caught that eh?

Face of Jacob, YOU and your Zionist cohorts are the reason some people dislike Jews in general. If you didn't go around telling everyone that you're "God's Chosen People", and use that as a justification to take land away from God's Unwanted Stepchildren, then maybe people wouldn't have a problem with you.
Indeed G-d chosed the Jews from all other nations to get his Torah commandments. And indeed he gave them the land of Israel. It's all written in the Tanach. G-d commanded us to conquer this land and to establish a kingdom of priests. And who gave you the right to conquer America and to slaughter Indians and Inkas? Ha? Mr. Feenix566? For sure it wasn't G-d. We didn't take lands of nobody else. We returned to our land after 2000 years of exile which was done by your Roman ancestors.

But I'm sure that within couple of days you will repeat this post of yours like you did several times in the past.

And again I'll tell you:

We returned. Happy now?

lol. how are they clearly god's chosen people? didn't they kill god's only son?
Yes and you killed his second son - David Koresh! (http://jdstone.org/cr/files/whoisthesonofg-d.html)

but when you believe that you are god's chosen people and the entire universe was created just for you...well, i suppose it is enough to give anyone such thoughts.
I don't believe that the entire universe was created just for me nor said it nor Jews have said it. You are a liar, and you spread lies about the Jews but you won't do it forever. I promise you. And yes, Jews are G-d's chosen people cause G-d himself have said it. Not we.

And BTW, you will not be promoted to the premier league.

Nobody likes a braggart.

It's all written in the Tanach.

Sure is interesting that it's YOUR holy book that declares that YOU'RE God's Chosen People. :scratch:


We returned to our land after 2000 years of exile which was done by your Roman ancestors.

But I'm sure that within couple of days you will repeat this post of yours like you did several times in the past.

And again I'll tell you:

We returned. Happy now?

You're 2000 years old? That's interesting. How do you do it? Does an apple a day really keep the doctor away?

You're 2000 years old? That's interesting. How do you do it? Does an apple a day really keep the doctor away?


talk about twisting somebody's words feenix. he said "We" referring to his culture, not "I" referring to himself. :rolleyes:







forgive me feenix. I'm just cranky today. I have a headache. :(

talk about twisting somebody's words feenix. he said "We" referring to his culture, not "I" referring to himself. :rolleyes:


That's my point. Some Jews may have been expelled from Jerusalem 2000 years ago, but it's not those Jews who are taking Palestinian land today. Some Arabs may have unjustly expelled those Jews from Jerusalem 2000 years ago, but it's not those Arabs who are living on Palestinian land today. All the people involved in whatever happened 2000 years ago are dead.

People are individuals. You can't judge a person by what culture they belong to. Anything else is racism. It's illogical, wrong, and just plan stupid.

That's my point. Some Jews may have been expelled from Jerusalem 2000 years ago, but it's not those Jews who are taking Palestinian land today. Some Arabs may have unjustly expelled those Jews from Jerusalem 2000 years ago, but it's not those Arabs who are living on Palestinian land today. All the people involved in whatever happened 2000 years ago are dead.

People are individuals. You can't judge a person by what culture they belong to. Anything else is racism. It's illogical, wrong, and just plan stupid.


good point. never thought of it that way. :nice:

It is a common misunderstanding when people say the Jews are the Chosen people. A more accurate way to say it is that Jews are the choosing people. We choose to follow what G-d told us.

This has been taught to me by multiple Rabbis. Anti-semites love to say that Jews are the Chosen people to make us look bad, and I will admit that a lot of Jews say it as well. The meaning has been lost over time tough. All people are G-d's children. None are more important than others. All are equal in G-d's eyes. That the Jews are the chosen (or choosing) people does not mean anything more to G-d then that these are the people who choose to follow the Torah.

Your ignorance is vast on this particular subject so much so that I'm really not sure it's worth the time to prove to you that the jews are god's chosen people. Put simply it all started and it all ends with the jews and there has never been a time in history where that statement is more true than the present.

jews are god's chosen people according to the jewish religion. do you believe that jews go to heaven? you are going against 2,000 years of christian theology. it's only since the 20th c. that christians have seriously entertained the notion that the jews are god's elect.

I don't believe that the entire universe was created just for me nor said it nor Jews have said it. You are a liar, and you spread lies about the Jews but you won't do it forever. I promise you. And yes, Jews are G-d's chosen people cause G-d himself have said it. Not we.

And BTW, you will not be promoted to the premier league.

god told joseph smith that the mormons were to be god's chosen people. who to believe?

Atari, you edited your post. I was gonna have fun with it. :shakefist

Atari, you edited your post. I was gonna have fun with it. :shakefist

sorry, i was looking for the right phrase in english, and it came off as an awkward construction. it didn't translate well.

:(

sorry, i was looking for the right phrase in english, and it came off as an awkward construction. it didn't translate well.

:(


eh, no biggie. when somebody posts a comment that I feel comfortable replying to, I'm prolly gonna be a jackass and try to make them eat their own words in just a few posts. today I woulda done it because I feel like crap and just feel like being a jerk. there would be no real point, just majinbuu engaging in general *******ry.

Sure is interesting that it's YOUR holy book that declares that YOU'RE God's Chosen People. :scratch:
My book is a juridical book with many people who witnessed to the things that are written in this book.

That's my point. Some Jews may have been expelled from Jerusalem 2000 years ago, but it's not those Jews who are taking Palestinian land today.
And here is another example of your utter ignorance.

"Some Jews"? All the Jews! And the name of the place isn't "Palestine". You know where this "Palestine" came from? Of course you don't know. Why would you know anyway?

"Palestine" is the name that the Romans gave to the land of Israel when they conquered this land 2000 years ago and Wikipedia explains (Israel) :


It was during this time that the Romans gave the name Syria Palaestina to the geographic area, in an attempt to erase Jewish ties to the land. The Mishnah and Jerusalem Talmud, two of Judaism's most important religious texts, were composed in the region during this period. The Muslims conquered the land from the Byzantine Empire in 638 CE. The area was ruled by various Muslim states (interrupted by the rule of the Crusaders) before becoming part of the Ottoman Empire in 1517.

Some Arabs may have unjustly expelled those Jews from Jerusalem 2000 years ago,
Romans. Not Arabs. You don't have a clue about history.

but it's not those Arabs who are living on Palestinian land today.
It's not a "Palestinian land". And they are in this land because they invaded this land in the last 200-300 years. But you always support barbaric human animals who invade to the home of the Jews, even if the Arabs have 22 countries that they conquered. Cause you don't like Jews and you support their enemies.

All the people involved in whatever happened 2000 years ago are dead.
The land is not dead. The land is valid and the land belongs to the Jews who have the right to return to this land.

How would you feel tomorrow your house would be taken by force and when you will come to take it back the next day then the criminals will tell you: "Who cares what was yesterday? It's my house now! Go away!" You will probably nuke these people like you always do.

You are racist. And the reason why you are racist is because you think that Jews shouldn't have a country of their own like other 70 nations in the world (and like you who slaughtered many Indians and Inqas because you are not behave as the chosen people). The truth is that the Jews are living in their country since the days that your country was nothing but a big swamp.

According to you: The Chinese aren't chosen people but they have right for their land. The Germans aren't chosen people but they have right for their land. The British aren't chosen people but they have right for their land etc etc EXCEPT the Jews who should live not in their home.

And another thing I would like to tell you is that there were some Jews (a minority) who weren't exiled by your Roman ancestors but stayed in Israel in the last 2000 years and there were Jews who were coming to Israel even 1000 years ago, before the barbaric human animals that you love so much to support - invaded this land from Arabia and were brought to Israel by the Utomans.

jews are god's chosen people according to the jewish religion. do you believe that jews go to heaven? you are going against 2,000 years of christian theology.
Judaism isn't a religion. Religions are things that are invented by humans by their own imagination and these kind of things are spreaded by humans. Christianity is a religion which was invented by humans. There is no Christian nation, there is a Christian religion. Islam is a religion which was invented by humans. There is no Islamic nation, there is an Islamic religion. Realism is a religion which was invented by humans. There is no Real nation, there is a Real religion.

Judaism isn't a religion. Judaism is a nation, an identity, an ethnic group. Jews all over the world are children of Israel, they are one family who came from one place 2000 years ago when they were expelled by the Romans.

Christianity and the other religions are temporary fashions. In fact, Christianity is idolatry by all definition. These people have invented "New G-ds" to themselves with new laws. This is the main point of idolatry. For example, G-d forbid to do adultery, so what people who wants to do adultery do? They invent a "new G-d" to themselves and also new laws that allows then to do what they want. Same goes for Christianity. The pagan Romans decided that a dead Jew who was sentenced to death because of blasphemy is "the son of G-d", couple of junkies took couple of Hebrew sentences, they distorted them and wrote other imaginary books as if he was "son of G-d" in the same way that your son may say to you tomorrow that you are not his father cause his mother was pregnant from the "holly spirit" and he will ask you to leave your house or like someone will knock on your door and will show you a book in which it says that last week he gave you 100,000$ so you must give them back to him cause after all it's written in the book.

it's only since the 20th c. that christians have seriously entertained the notion that the jews are god's elect.
It's not because of Christianity but because the Jews started to take control and responsibility on their own life in the exile and started to unite in order to gain their power back by living in their homeland and to be united. In this moment when the gentiles who call themselves as "Christians" saw that the Jews care to themselves and gaining back their own power then they stopped from all the pogroms and the inquisitions and all the other horrible things that the Church and the Vatican did in the last 2000 years:

Catholic Bishops giving the Nazi salute in honour of Hitler:
http://www.nobeliefs.com/images/NaziPriestsSaluteHitler.jpg

Spanish Bishops giving the fascist salute:
http://www.nobeliefs.com/images/UstashBishops.jpg

If you see a weak man in the street then your attitude towards him will change when he will gain back his power. This is another proof why Christianity is loosing her power in the last 2000 years. The Jews speak the truth and in upnext time those who define themselves as "Christians" will abandon their idolatry dreams and will come back to follow the 7 laws that G-d gave to Noach their ancestor. Same goes for Islam.

Muchas Gracias!

Face of Jacob, YOU and your Zionist cohorts are the reason some people dislike Jews in general. If you didn't go around telling everyone that you're "God's Chosen People", and use that as a justification to take land away from God's Unwanted Stepchildren, then maybe people wouldn't have a problem with you.

There's a spectrum of people for every religion...
I'd equate the "we jews are the chosen people" people with the "jesus loves you, here's a pamphlet now go confess your sins or you're going to hell" people...

lol. how are they clearly god's chosen people? didn't they kill god's only son?

Nope. The romans did...

Sure is interesting that it's YOUR holy book that declares that YOU'RE God's Chosen People.

Actually it's one of the same books studied by the church, today. I'm pretty sure the first part of the bible is just the old testament...

Nope. The romans did...
They gave the Jews a choice. Who should they set free, barabbas or Jesus. They chose Barabbas.
Who is more guilty of a crime, the one who orders it, or the one who commits it?

Actually it's one of the same books studied by the church, today. I'm pretty sure the first part of the bible is just the old testament...
It's not really the same book. Plus Christ represents the separation of God from the Jews.

I can't believe that nobody has pointed out that the reason anti-semitism is -generally- on the rise is because Israel was recreated in the 20th century, and took more than the mandated area the UN gave them. The arabians have obviously been the worst of the two sides, but just because Jews lived in a place 2000 years ago doesn't give them any right to have it now. It's like moving house, only to go back to your own house and turf out the occupants.

The Jews speak the truth and in upnext time those who define themselves as "Christians" will abandon their idolatry dreams and will come back to follow the 7 laws that G-d gave to Noach their ancestor. Same goes for Islam.
Jews speak the truth? In general terms I'd agree, but in religious terms who knows who is right? How can you claim Christianity is any less plausible than Judaism, even though most of the evidence for both are ancient scrolls that could have been written by anyone.

"Palestine" is the name that the Romans gave to the land of Israel when they conquered this land 2000 years ago and Wikipedia explains (Israel) :

Romans. Not Arabs. You don't have a clue about history.


You really ought to invade Rome, then. :|


you always support barbaric human animals who invade to the home of the Jews

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How would you feel tomorrow your house would be taken by force

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You are racist.


So, lemme get this straight. Palestinians are "human animals" who have no rights. They have no right to be pissed off that their homes are being taken by force TODAY by YOU, because they're animals. But YOU have a right to be pissed off because your great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather had his home taken away 2000 years ago. Because you have all the rights in the world, because God loves you, and not them.

And I'm a racist?

wow.

Jews speak the truth? In general terms I'd agree, but in religious terms who knows who is right? How can you claim Christianity is any less plausible than Judaism, even though most of the evidence for both are ancient scrolls that could have been written by anyone.

The evidence for believing in Thor and Odin is equally plausible. Who to believe?? :shrug:

They gave the Jews a choice. Who should they set free, barabbas or Jesus. They chose Barabbas.
Who is more guilty of a crime, the one who orders it, or the one who commits it?

It's not really the same book. Plus Christ represents the separation of God from the Jews.

As you like it...who held them both? Romans were going to kill both, the "crowd" (which eventually translated into the "jews") was allowed to choose one, on account of the holiday; they chose other than jesus...

Yes, hence Christianity and the common books between the two...

The Face of Jacob: Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Jews supposed to have their promised land only when your messiah arrives?

jews are god's chosen people according to the jewish religion. do you believe that jews go to heaven? you are going against 2,000 years of christian theology. it's only since the 20th c. that christians have seriously entertained the notion that the jews are god's elect.

I believe that messianic jews will go to heaven.

I believe that jews will turn to Christ in the last days hence go to heaven.

I believe that anyone who accepts Christ will go to heaven.

You really need to read about the tribulation. Your answers will be found in that prophecy. You people seem to be of the understanding that jews some how receive a get out of jail free card and frequent worship miles just because they're jews. Nothing could be further from the truth. God has lain a tremendous burden on them from beginning to end.

The Face of Jacob: Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Jews supposed to have their promised land only when your messiah arrives?
You are wrong. The messiah will be a king who will do 3 things in the future:
1. Will build the 3rd temple in its place.
2. Will gather the rest of the Jews who are living abroad to Israel.
3. Will win the "wars of G-d" to restore the greater Israel.

fgdsftgsdrtrtertertertertertert messed up see message below

such emphasis on the tribulation = Christian dispensationalist nonsense.

there is no need for Christians to be bowing & scraping before the jews, much as the face of Jacob loves it.

fgdsftgsdrtrtertertertertertert messed up see message below
(You wrote before that there is no mention that Jews are a chosen nation)

Maybe you don't know how to read!

Deuteronomy Chapter 7:6-8
For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be His own treasure, out of all peoples that are upon the face of the earth. The LORD did not set His love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people--for ye were the fewest of all peoples. but because the LORD loved you, and because He would keep the oath which He swore unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.

Deuteronomy Chapter 26:18-19
And the LORD hath avouched thee this day to be His own treasure, as He hath promised thee, and that thou shouldest keep all His commandments; and to make thee high above all nations that He hath made, in praise, and in name, and in glory; and that thou mayest be a holy people unto the LORD thy God, as He hath spoken.

Deuteronomy Chapter 28:9
The LORD will establish thee for a holy people unto Himself, as He hath sworn unto thee; if thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, and walk in His ways.

Leviticus Chapter 11:45
For I am the LORD that brought you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God; ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy.

Leviticus Chapter 20:26
And ye shall be holy unto Me; for I the LORD am holy, and have set you apart from the peoples, that ye should be Mine.

Deuteronomy Chapter 4:6
Observe therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the peoples, that, when they hear all these statutes, shall say: 'Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.'

Exodus Chapter 19:6
and ye shall be unto Me a kingdom of priests, and a holy nation.

a better way of putting it would be:

jews are a chosen people only in their own minds and those of christian dispensationalist. if such Christians wish to pervert Scripture so that they bow before the jews, then they are welcome to do so. that doesn't make them right.

Christianity and the other religions are temporary fashions. In fact, Christianity is idolatry by all definition. These people have invented "New G-ds" to themselves with new laws. This is the main point of idolatry. For example, G-d forbid to do adultery, so what people who wants to do adultery do? They invent a "new G-d" to themselves and also new laws that allows then to do what they want. Same goes for Christianity. The pagan Romans decided that a dead Jew who was sentenced to death because of blasphemy is "the son of G-d", couple of junkies took couple of Hebrew sentences, they distorted them and wrote other imaginary books as if he was "son of G-d" in the same way that your son may say to you tomorrow that you are not his father cause his mother was pregnant from the "holly spirit" and he will ask you to leave your house or like someone will knock on your door and will show you a book in which it says that last week he gave you 100,000$ so you must give them back to him cause after all it's written in the book.


okay, 86Dude, you can ally yourself with the face of Jacob, who hates Christianity, Christians, and Jesus Christ. does that make you a better 'Christian'?

okay, 86Dude, you can ally yourself with the face of Jacob, who hates Christianity, Christians, and Jesus Christ. does that make you a better 'Christian'?
Why should I love Christianity and some Jewish terrorist? Why should I love a false thought that G-d forbids and a false thought that in 2000 years burned, killed, salughtered and tortured many Jews in the name of a wooden puppet of a Jew that did blasphemy that couple of pagans decided that he is "G-d" and they are worship to this puppet?

Pay attention, the word: Christians does not exist in my lexicon. Nobody is being born as "Christian", nor as a "Muslim", or what ever. They are being raised as "Christians"/"Muslims". They are Noachides who should follow the 7 laws that G-d commanded them and not to invent to themselves false thoughts that they may use to burn and slaughter other humans in the name of it.

And another thing: I don't judge people by their religion and your religion doesn't matter in my eyes. I judge people by their behaviour.

such a long post to explain that jews suck at life

:rolleyes: Do you ever have something constructive to add to a thread? And you're (note that it's not "your") just backing up the OP's claim, btw.

Why should I love Christianity and some Jewish terrorist? Why should I love a false thought that G-d forbids and a false thought that in 2000 years burned, killed, salughtered and tortured many Jews in the name of a wooden puppet of a Jew that did blasphemy that couple of pagans decided that he is "G-d" and they are worship to this puppet?

okay, but don't expect any true Christian to follow to abandon his faith for the Noachide laws.

Wow. I wouldn't even know where to begin, here. The face of Jacob, you have beliefs about Christianity and a few other things (not your point about anti-semitism, I agree with that to an extent) that imo are so, so sad and misguided, if I can be direct. If you are ever up for a discussion, I'll post a thread that I'd love for you to read. In fact, if I have time I'll try to post it tonight.

They gave the Jews a choice. Who should they set free, barabbas or Jesus. They chose Barabbas.
Who is more guilty of a crime, the one who orders it, or the one who commits it?

Facts are facts. Examine the crime closely. Much more closely than what is said under Pilate. "They" did not give a choice. It was Pilate and his own authority. Consider what Christ himself said and what it meant to the jews and why they condemned him and why he died at the hands of romans and not stones of his own people. Consider what Christ knew and did and how he went willingly for both jew and gentile to die. He knew he was going to die. He knew it had to happen.

No offense, but IMO it's plain moronic to say the jews killed Jesus.

Facts are facts. Examine the crime closely. Much more closely than what is said under Pilate. "They" did not give a choice. It was Pilate and his own authority. Consider what Christ himself said and what it meant to the jews and why they condemned him and why he died at the hands of romans and not stones of his own people. Consider what Christ knew and did and how he went willingly for both jew and gentile to die. He knew he was going to die. He knew it had to happen.

No offense, but IMO it's plain moronic to say the jews killed Jesus.


Jojo with the slam dunk.

In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter if it was the Romans, the Jews, or whoever. It was the sins of the world (the whole world, that means ALL of us) that led to Jesus's slaughter, and He laid down His life willingly.

I also think it's silly when people say "the Jews killed Jesus", OR when people say "the Romans killed Jesus." Talk about missing the point!! :D

In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter if it was the Romans, the Jews, or whoever. It was the sins of the world (the whole world, that means ALL of us) that led to Jesus's slaughter, and He laid down His life willingly.

I also think it's silly when people say "the Jews killed Jesus", OR when people say "the Romans killed Jesus." Talk about missing the point!! :D
The Jewish Sanhedrin sentenced him to death but because the Romans were the rullers in Israel at that time then the Sanhedrin didn't have any right to execute people so they give him to the Romans.

The Sanhedrin sentenced him to death because he enchanted, rinsed and instigated the nation of Israel to strange worship and the Sanhedrin had all the right to do it, cause G-d commanded in the Torah to kill those kind of Jews who are trying to cause other Jews to do idolatry, you can find it here:
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0513.htm

Elijah the prophet killed 400 Jews who truned to idolatry:
And Elijah said unto them: 'Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape.' And they took them; and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there.
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt09a18.htm

I'm sure that in one period in history there would probably couple fans of these 400 Jews, so what?

To say that Jesus was the "Son of G-d" who "took all the sins of humans" is no different than saying that son of Jor-el was sent from Krypton to save the earth.

God says in the Torah that each man will die with his own sins and that you are not responsible for the sins of another. This false idea that "he took all the sins of humans" was invented in order to clean the conscience of pagans who would like to do whatever they like: all the bad things in the world.

That man was a Jew, and as a Jew he should have followed the Torah commandments that G-d commanded his Jewish ancestors 1300 years before his time. If he wouldn't do his negative things then he wouldn't have been killed. I keep hearing that he was sinless. That's rubbish. He was a Jew and G-d commanded the Jews to fast on Yom Kippur and G-d says in the Torah that Yom Kippur is to clean the Jews from their sins which means that Jews make sins and that nobody's perfect. Even great Rabbis should fast on Yom Kippur and even great Rabbis aren't sinless.

The "New Testament" is an imaginary book. Jesus is not different than the likes of David Koresh and other odd people that their fans glorified them.

God commands not to make changes in the Torah:

Deuteronomy Chapter 4:1-2

And now, O Israel, hearken unto the statutes and unto the ordinances, which I teach you, to do them; that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the LORD, the God of your fathers, giveth you. Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

I don't know if you saw my post on the previous page, but I want to post a thread for you.... I don't know if I'll be able to post it tonight (it will take a while to compile everything I want to post) but I will try to do it soon.

I don't know if you saw my post on the previous page, but I want to post a thread for you.... I don't know if I'll be able to post it tonight (it will take a while to compile everything I want to post) but I will try to do it soon.
Yes I saw it.

Indeed G-d chosed the Jews from all other nations to get his Torah commandments. And indeed he gave them the land of Israel. It's all written in the Tanach. G-d commanded us to conquer this land and to establish a kingdom of priests. And who gave you the right to conquer America and to slaughter Indians and Inkas? Ha? Mr. Feenix566? For sure it wasn't G-d. We didn't take lands of nobody else. We returned to our land after 2000 years of exile which was done by your Roman ancestors.

But I'm sure that within couple of days you will repeat this post of yours like you did several times in the past.

And again I'll tell you:

We returned. Happy now?do you feel that all peoples that were once driven from their lands have a right to return? simple question. please awnser.

In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter if it was the Romans, the Jews, or whoever. It was the sins of the world (the whole world, that means ALL of us) that led to Jesus's slaughter, and He laid down His life willingly.

I also think it's silly when people say "the Jews killed Jesus", OR when people say "the Romans killed Jesus." Talk about missing the point!! :D

You really think that people who were born today should feel guilty for something that happened 2000 years prior to their birth?

do you feel that all peoples that were once driven from their lands have a right to return? simple question. please awnser.
Do you feel that if tomorrow people steal your car then you don't have the right to get it back? Do you think that your car isn't belongs to you now but belongs to the stealers? Do you feel that if tomorrow people will burst into your house and will kick you out then it's not your house anymore, but belongs to the stealers? Simple question. Please answer.

The land of Israel belongs to the children of Israel. It's their land forever and there is a juridical document which proves it.

If I'll go according your anti-semite and your twisted mind then if you think that if we lost that land 2000 years ago so now it's the Arabs's land so according your mind then the Arabs have lost this land and now it's ours so you can ask the Arabs the questions that you asked me: do you feel that Arabs that were once driven from lands that they stole from others have a right to return? simple question. please awnser.

Face of Jacob, here's an even simpler question: Can you tell the difference between yourself and someone who died 2000 years ago?

Face of Jacob, here's an even simpler question: Can you tell the difference between yourself and someone who died 2000 years ago?
Feenix566, here's an even simpler question: Can you tell the difference between yourself and your grandfather who passed a legacy of his house to his decsendants, so his house belongs to you when he dies? Or do you think that he is only "someone" and there is no connection between you two?

So if he dies then his house (that he passed to you by law) isn't belongs to you now? If you are an American does it says that when your parents die then you are not allowed to live in your county anymore?

And if someone will open a war on you to destroy you and conquer you then you wouldn't fight him?

It's not "someone", you ignorant, it's my ancestors, my family and since it's the land of our nation then I have rights in the land.

You didn't answer the question. Can you tell the difference between yourself and someone who died 2000 years ago? It's a simple question. Either you are a pile of bones that's been completely devoured by time, or you're a living human being. Judging by the fact that you're typing responses to me, I suspect you're alive.

Feenix566, here's an even simpler question: Can you tell the difference between yourself and your grandfather who passed a legacy of his house to his decsendants, so his house belongs to you when he dies? Or do you think that he is only "someone" and there is no connection between you two?

So if he dies then his house (that he passed to you by law) isn't belongs to you now? If you are an American does it says that when your parents die then you are not allowed to live in your county anymore?


First of all, there's a big difference between my grandfather and my ancestors from 2000 years ago. But I can tell the difference between myself and both of them. And for what it's worth, the American Death Tax will take most of what my parents have earned before they can pass it on to me.


And if someone will open a war on you to destroy you and conquer you then you wouldn't fight him?


I'm glad you support the Palestinians' reason for fighting Israel.

You didn't answer the question.
My dog is smarther than you. And I answered the stupid questions but you don't know how to read English.

Do you feel that if tomorrow people steal your car then you don't have the right to get it back? Do you think that your car isn't belongs to you now but belongs to the stealers? Do you feel that if tomorrow people will burst into your house and will kick you out then it's not your house anymore, but belongs to the stealers? Simple question. Please answer.

The land of Israel belongs to the children of Israel. It's their land forever and there is a juridical document which proves it.

If I'll go according your anti-semite and your twisted mind then if you think that if we lost that land 2000 years ago so now it's the Arabs's land so according your mind then the Arabs have lost this land and now it's ours so you can ask the Arabs the questions that you asked me: do you feel that Arabs that were once driven from lands that they stole from others have a right to return? simple question. please awnser.you didnt awnser my question. do you feel that all peoples that were once driven from their lands have a right to return? oh well, you probebly think that only jewish people have this special right. it would be rather rediculous to think otherwise, I agree, that would mean that just about the whole world would have claims on various parts of this earth, since just about every population we have to day was once driven away from their homelands. that goes for all of europe, and most of asia, all people in teh US could claim europe, south america could move back to spain, the american indians back to asia..... but ofcourse teh jewish people, no they are special and shoud have this right, because they wrote it down in a book.. :rolleyes:

sorry jacob, if my forefathers were driven out of eastern europe, which is in fact the case, that doesnt mean that we can now start immigrating back ehre and claim it for ourselves.

They are clearly God's chosen people, living on the land they were given to by GOD, the same place were, gasp, the first II temples were built until lo and beyold some filthy subhumans conquered it, took over the place and built that mosque of satan. So who's the real victim here?

This is the sort of thing that gets people involuntarily locked up in mental institutions.

Watch the video (http://news.walla.co.il/?w=/3850/1057931)

The combination of radical left and radical Islam defend those who do anti-semite attacks in UK, according the video - UK is the most anti-semite country in Europe. A Jewish girl has been attacked by Muslims there in the bus.

The racist attacks upon anti-semite backgrounds have been doubled in the last decade.

I love it when Jews die.

As I've said before, the term anti-semite is the same as communist in the 50's, anyone actually using it is a loon and should be watched carefully, as they are likely a dangerous loon at that.

[QUOTE=The face of Jacob]

What a bunch of Bull$hit propaganda. The Jews are caught all over the World spray painting their synagogue's and cemeterys with the Nazi (Ashkenazi ) sign turning over their grave stones. They (Jews) are also always being caught reporting assaults that do not happen. No one that can read and think bys these tricks and the Zionist false flags anymore.

Its normally just in time to get the news off some crime they just got caught for. Like not long ago I believe it was New Zealand caught some Mossad agents lying to get passports and cut ties with the Israeli government. Next thing you hear is there is a cemetery taged with the old Nazi (Ashkenazi) sign.

With the internet the whole world is catching on to these Jew tricks and Lies.

"The (Sacrificial) Lamb of God was Jesus the miracle-son, who was sacrificed, as the Second Passover, to redeem the people from the curse (penalty clauses) of The Law of The Mosaic Covenant under which all were guilty and worthy of death, for having broken it, and thereby set them free from the power of sin, through his teachings, if they accepted, digested and lived by them." JAH

ZECHARIAH 12 v 10
"And they (Jerusalem) shall look upon ME whom they pierced (whilst inside of the son of Mary body) and they (the Jews) shall MOURN for HIM (Jesus) as one mourneth for His only SON, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for HIS (own) firstborn.
In that Day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the Valley of Megiddon (as they too are EXECUTED - for their treason).



You are going to Burn. Plus Everyone you know that does not repent from this evil you people spew. It totally amazes me they call the Jews smart! They cannot even understand the Bible. You all are being led straight to the fire by the blind guides. The Blind leading the blind straight to the FIRE. I thought Americans were brainwashed and brain-dead and had no wisdom or understanding, but you Jews take the cake!!

Are you ready for the Fire?


Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts, that it shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing).

(You wrote before that there is no mention that Jews are a chosen nation)

Maybe you don't know how to read!

Deuteronomy Chapter 7:6-8


Deuteronomy Chapter 26:18-19


Deuteronomy Chapter 28:9


Leviticus Chapter 11:45


Leviticus Chapter 20:26


Deuteronomy Chapter 4:6


Exodus Chapter 19:6

Not one of those is about Jews. I think that when all that was said there were no Jews. The word Jew if I remember right come about the time of the Second Temple. These mixed breed, mongrel, Bastards that came back from Babylon are referred to as Jews.

God is talking about the 12 Tribes of Israel. The Hebrews! I'm sure that you do not even care about the truth.

Nine out of ten people that call themselves Jews today are not even close to being Hebrews.

You lying Jews have no right to even use the name Israel for that so called country.

Genesis 48:16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name [Israel] be named on them (let Ephraim and Manasseh be called Israel), and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.

48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know [it], my son, I know [it]: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude (Commonwealth) of nations.



You lying, thieving, mass-murdering, slave trading Jews are not Ephraim and Manasseh. You lying, thieving, mass-murdering, slave traders have never been a multitude of nations.

All over the Bible it points out that The House of Judah and The House or Israel went their own ways.