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The face of Jacob
01-24-2007, 12:39 AM
I'd like to ask that only Americans will answer this poll, thanks.

After reading the signature of living love that Ariel Sharon so to speak have said, I like to ask the Americans what they prefer?

That America won't tell Israel what to do and that in exchange Jews won't control America? Or that America will continue to tell Israel what to do and that in exchange the Jews will continue "to control" America.

Mobile Vulgus
01-24-2007, 12:47 AM
I don't see either of your choices as correct. We DO tell Israel "what to do" because of the huge investment in money and emotion we have in the nation and we have a right t expect them t take our thoughts into consideration with their policy because of it. But Israel doesn't HAVE to do what we say as they are a sovereign people, after all!

On the other hand, people that say the Jews "control America" are racist idiots who haven't the first sense of what is going on around them because they are blinded by their Jew hatred.

America does and MUST support Israel. The world owes Israel support in payment for the hell Europe put them through... not just in WWII but since the Roman Empire fell!

America should support Israel to stick it to the fetid Europeans, sure, but also because it is just plain RIGHT to support a democracy that is constantly threatened by the cancer that is Islam. Screwing with the fetid Europeans is but a happy by product. Israel has proven its worth and anyone who really looks with a clear eye can see it is as open and egalitarian as it could be.

So, your poll doesn't work for me, but these are my thoughts none-the-less.

The face of Jacob
01-24-2007, 12:49 AM
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living love
01-24-2007, 02:08 AM
Zionist control hollywood, tv, newspapers etc, etc, etc and all most all, if not all of Washington DC.

Only brainwashed Americans cannot see it. "not what it seems" Major General Smedley Butler

Our country has been over thrown by MASS-MURDERING zoinist jew banker, gangsters. Our miltary has been murdering people around the world for at least a hundred years for these mass-murdering evil gangsters.



http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

Major General Smedley Butler

CHAPTER ONE

War Is A Racket

WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is {not what it seems** to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.

In the World War [I] a mere handful garnered the profits of the conflict. At least 21,000 new millionaires and billionaires were made in the United States during the World War. That many admitted their huge blood gains in their income tax returns. How many other war millionaires falsified their tax returns no one knows.

How many of these war millionaires shouldered a rifle? How many of them dug a trench? How many of them knew what it meant to go hungry in a rat-infested dug-out? How many of them spent sleepless, frightened nights, ducking shells and shrapnel and machine gun bullets? How many of them parried a bayonet thrust of an enemy? How many of them were wounded or killed in battle?

Out of war nations acquire additional territory, if they are victorious. They just take it. This newly acquired territory promptly is exploited by the few -- the selfsame few who wrung dollars out of blood in the war. The general public shoulders the bill.

And what is this bill?

This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones. Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Depression and all its attendant miseries. Back-breaking taxation for generations and generations.

For a great many years, as a soldier, I had a suspicion that war was a racket; not until I retired to civil life did I fully realize it. Now that I see the international war clouds gathering, as they are today, I must face it and speak out.

Again they are choosing sides. France and Russia met and agreed to stand side by side. Italy and Austria hurried to make a similar agreement. Poland and Germany cast sheep's eyes at each other, forgetting for the nonce [one unique occasion], their dispute over the Polish Corridor.

The assassination of King Alexander of Jugoslavia [Yugoslavia] complicated matters. Jugoslavia and Hungary, long bitter enemies, were almost at each other's throats. Italy was ready to jump in. But France was waiting. So was Czechoslovakia. All of them are looking ahead to war. Not the people -- not those who fight and pay and die -- only those who foment wars and remain safely at home to profit.

There are 40,000,000 men under arms in the world today, and our statesmen and diplomats have the temerity to say that war is not in the making.

Hell's bells! Are these 40,000,000 men being trained to be dancers?

Not in Italy, to be sure. Premier Mussolini knows what they are being trained for. He, at least, is frank enough to speak out. Only the other day, Il Duce in "International Conciliation," the publication of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said:

"And above all, Fascism, the more it considers and observes the future and the development of humanity quite apart from political considerations of the moment, believes neither in the possibility nor the utility of perpetual peace. . . . War alone brings up to its highest tension all human energy and puts the stamp of nobility upon the people who have the courage to meet it."

Undoubtedly Mussolini means exactly what he says. His well-trained army, his great fleet of planes, and even his navy are ready for war -- anxious for it, apparently. His recent stand at the side of Hungary in the latter's dispute with Jugoslavia showed that. And the hurried mobilization of his troops on the Austrian border after the assassination of Dollfuss showed it too. There are others in Europe too whose sabre rattling presages war, sooner or later.

Herr Hitler, with his rearming Germany and his constant demands for more and more arms, is an equal if not greater menace to peace. France only recently increased the term of military service for its youth from a year to eighteen months.

Yes, all over, nations are camping in their arms. The mad dogs of Europe are on the loose. In the Orient the maneuvering is more adroit. Back in 1904, when Russia and Japan fought, we kicked out our old friends the Russians and backed Japan. Then our very generous international bankers were financing Japan. Now the trend is to poison us against the Japanese. What does the "open door" policy to China mean to us? Our trade with China is about $90,000,000 a year. Or the Philippine Islands? We have spent about $600,000,000 in the Philippines in thirty-five years and we (our bankers and industrialists and speculators) have private investments there of less than $200,000,000.

Then, to save that China trade of about $90,000,000, or to protect these private investments of less than $200,000,000 in the Philippines, we would be all stirred up to hate Japan and go to war -- a war that might well cost us tens of billions of dollars, hundreds of thousands of lives of Americans, and many more hundreds of thousands of physically maimed and mentally unbalanced men.

Of course, for this loss, there would be a compensating profit -- fortunes would be made. Millions and billions of dollars would be piled up. By a few. Munitions makers. Bankers. Ship builders. Manufacturers. Meat packers. Speculators. They would fare well.

Yes, they are getting ready for another war. Why shouldn't they? It pays high dividends.

But what does it profit the men who are killed? What does it profit their mothers and sisters, their wives and their sweethearts? What does it profit their children?

What does it profit anyone except the very few to whom war means huge profits?

Yes, and what does it profit the nation?

Take our own case. Until 1898 we didn't own a bit of territory outside the mainland of North America. At that time our national debt was a little more than $1,000,000,000. Then we became "internationally minded." We forgot, or shunted aside, the advice of the Father of our country. We forgot George Washington's warning about "entangling alliances." We went to war. We acquired outside territory. At the end of the World War period, as a direct result of our fiddling in international affairs, our national debt had jumped to over $25,000,000,000. Our total favorable trade balance during the twenty-five-year period was about $24,000,000,000. Therefore, on a purely bookkeeping basis, we ran a little behind year for year, and that foreign trade might well have been ours without the wars.

It would have been far cheaper (not to say safer) for the average American who pays the bills to stay out of foreign entanglements. For a very few this racket, like bootlegging and other underworld rackets, brings fancy profits, but the cost of operations is always transferred to the people -- who do not profit.

"very generous international bankers" Major General Smedley Butler Well who are these Mass-Murders? NWO Zionest Jews thats who!!

Mobile Vulgus
01-24-2007, 04:04 AM
See. The above is the kind of racist, nutbars I'm talking about.

Dogberry
01-24-2007, 04:48 AM
I'm not Amercian but I answered the poll just to piss you off you anglophobic twat.

BooRadley
01-24-2007, 05:22 AM
How about: Israel pays back all the handouts we've given them, we stop giving them any aid, they stay away from our government, and we stay away from theirs. We are soverign, they are soverign, and no one tries to tell anyone else what to do.

indieinmich
01-24-2007, 09:02 AM
How about: Israel pays back all the handouts we've given them, we stop giving them any aid, they stay away from our government, and we stay away from theirs. We are soverign, they are soverign, and no one tries to tell anyone else what to do.
Sounds good to me.

Stone
01-24-2007, 05:02 PM
I think we should treat Israel just like we treat other foreign nations instead of treating them as the exception.
I don't think they deserve preferential treatment from the US, plain and simple. The amount of aid they receive should make inner city school children cry in their 1980's era science books.

flaming_liberal
01-24-2007, 05:38 PM
How about: Israel pays back all the handouts we've given them, we stop giving them any aid, they stay away from our government, and we stay away from theirs. We are soverign, they are soverign, and no one tries to tell anyone else what to do.

I am entirely for that, so that when folks like Jacob here advocate for the use of nuclear arms and then proceed to use them, we will all know the truth about how some folks really are genocidal. There is a reason that it's called a nuclear holocaust, Jacob, my friend.

The face of Jacob
01-24-2007, 07:10 PM
I am entirely for that, so that when folks like Jacob here advocate for the use of nuclear arms and then proceed to use them, we will all know the truth about how some folks really are genocidal. There is a reason that it's called a nuclear holocaust, Jacob, my friend.
flaming_liberal is another anti-semite knight of double standard. (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3283206,00.html)

The thing is that the ones who promote genocide are you and your father. You two promote genocide against the Jewish people. Two little anti-semites.

'My friend' you should call to Adolf Eichman.

Mystlet
01-24-2007, 07:14 PM
:|


*tells Israel what to do & runs*




:p

BooRadley
01-24-2007, 07:25 PM
flaming_liberal is another anti-semite


What is it with you Jewish Supremists that reduces all your arguments to slinging this same stupid insult at anyone who doesn't goose step for the Israeli Fatherland?

Stone
01-24-2007, 07:41 PM
flaming_liberal is another anti-semite knight of double standard. (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3283206,00.html)

The thing is that the ones who promote genocide are you and your father. You two promote genocide against the Jewish people. Two little anti-semites.

'My friend' you should call to Adolf Eichman.
:scratch:

flaming_liberal
01-24-2007, 07:54 PM
What does my father have to do with anything? The hell you talking about?

But hey, you know, if you want to talk about double standards, let's talk about how it's okay for you to wish death via indiscriminate nuclear attacks, yet they are savage barbarians for killing even one Israeli, be he a soldier or civilian.
Believing that you are superior to all other races, which is something you have admitted here on DA, does not give you a free pass.

The face of Jacob
01-24-2007, 08:15 PM
I'm not Amercian but I answered the poll just to piss you off you anglophobic twat.
LOL, what a miserable post. If you want to know then I'm an anglophile. Yes, I like The Beatles and Oasis and I support your 3 lions team. But it's not me who is anglophobic but you are anti-semite, and this is why the Jews in UK are leaving:

People are wonderful to you," he says. "You're not a 'bloody immigrant' - none of that talk you get here in England. You're someone coming home who hears: 'Baruch haba! Welcome here!
Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4797425.stm)

Sam Silvester (his family name isn't a Jewish one but the migration clerk in England gave this name to his great-grandfather when he arrived to England because his original family name was something like Schivartiarshtein) is a well known Jewish lawyer who represented the Beatles and Paul Mcartney. He is living in Israel in the last 11 years. He gave an interview to Yuval Heiman in the Israeli Maariv newspaper at 15.12.06, here is a paragraph in which he talks about the anti-semitism in England:

Sam and Carol Silvester made Aliya to Israel 11 years ago and settled down in Ein Kerem after he got his benefit (pension). During 30 years before they did Aliya they had a flat in Netanya and they were staying in this flat at least 3 times a year. They always wanted to settle down in Israel, the only question was when and how to do it. They have 3 children, all of them are religious, 2 of them are living in Israel. Their son, Gideon is a Rabbi in Jerusalem. "Even after 8 generations in England I didn't feel completely at home", he is telling, "I don't even think that someone expected that I would feel completely at home. The English anti-semitism is very polite that you don't feel the knife penetrates untill you see blood on the floor."

Q: Do you have an example?

A: "I'll give you a magnificent example. A client has come to see me and told me that he always wanted a smart Jewish lawyer. But the meaning of the word 'smart' was in fact 'cunning', and the meaning of the word 'Jewish' was in fact 'a bastard'. Do you understand? It's all very polite, everything is very lovely. In the first 2 years of mine in West Minister, I had to tell my class mates that I didn't kill Jesus, that I wasn't there and that it's not my fault."

His first acquaintance with the horrors of the world he was at the age of 12 in a London cinema, there he saw the terror of the holocaust. A year later he saw how the British mandate sending back to Germany ships of Maapilim which arrived to the shores of Israel. In the time that he told about it, the tears strangled his throat: "When I saw my soldiers and my sailors", he said in great sadness, "I couldn't believe. I couldn't believe that a human being can do such thing after what the Jews been through in the holocaust. I was in deep shock."

"I feel that all that have happened in Israel needed to be my story. The 2000 years that I was living in the exile are the most worst waste of time. I'm an old fashioned Zionist. I know it's not fashion anymore in a post Zionist world, there are still couple of people that believe in devotion that there needs to be a Jewish state in this small piece of land, in such a big world. The fact that all the world is hostile us is a farce. It's ridiculous. In the time of the Intifada, when the most of our haters in Europe spoke against Israel, I found a wonderful solution. All that we had to do is telling the French, the British and the other Europeans that we are coming back. You can describe to yourself how they would have react."

Later on he was asked: "Where is better, here or in England?"

A: "Here is much better, with no doubt. If I want to eat kosher, I have where to eat. I love very much Jews and Judaism. I come from a wonderful nation with a great philosophy."

"When I talk with people in England, when I visit there and they ask me about Israel, I always direct them to "Alice in wonderland" of Luis Carol. I ask them to tell me what their opinion about Israel, I'm taking the name 'Israel' and replace it with 'England'. And then the story sounds like this: England is being bombed from France with 500 missiles each day, how much time do the English will relate to it in patient? Everyday, French terrorists are entering England and they bomb themselves in busses. What England supposed to do? And they answer right away: "We will make laws against it, we won't suffer it." It's amazing how much fast they change when I do it."

Q: Why do (non Jews in general) hate us so much?

A: "It doesn't matter if you are a secular or religious. The Jews brought to the world the concept of God and of good and of bad. The world is trying to keep a certain standard. When it fails he can't kick God because he can't see him, so he kicks his representative. This is what Prof. Stainer wrote in one of his books."

Picture of the paragraph:
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6233/dsc013114ph.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1010/dsc013135lo.jpg

The face of Jacob
01-24-2007, 08:28 PM
Warning issued : personal attack

But hey, you know, if you want to talk about double standards, let's talk about how it's okay for you to wish death via indiscriminate nuclear attacks, yet they are savage barbarians for killing even one Israeli, be he a soldier or civilian.
I didn't wish death to anybody. You are lying. All I've said is that Israel has all the right to defend herself like any other nation in the world. But since you think that Jews should live in Ghettos then you think that Israel has no right to exist and thus doesn't need to defend herself. This is Nazism.

Believing that you are superior to all other races, which is something you have admitted here on DA, does not give you a free pass.
You are a liar and a blood libel producer. I didn't say that I'm superior to all other races, you are an utter liar. I said that the Jews are the chosen nation to get the Torah commandments from God. You got only 7 commandments.

"and ye shall be unto Me a kingdom of priests, and a holy nation."

"and have set you apart from the nations, that ye should be Mine."

The behaviour of the Jews (and everybody knows that) is much more moral than your nation which invaded a land that wasn't belonged to them and that slaughter many innocent Indains and Incas and much more moral than all the Europeans who turned half of this world to their slaves. Jews don't behave these kind of ugly and fasict way that some Gentiles like YOU are beahving.

Is it that fact that you used Nukes to burned 500,000 people of your enemies makes you to be superiour to the Japanese? Why do you have the right to defend your country but the Jews don't? Ha? Please tell me you llittle blood libel producer, or is it that you are only drunk? As usuall?

Malcolm Wright
01-24-2007, 09:08 PM
This thread is WAY too full of wierd insults for my liking. My head is throbbing...

M.

Malcolm Wright
01-24-2007, 09:09 PM
:|

*tells Israel what to do & runs*

:p

*Moons Israel and flips the bird at America &*

*ducks and covers*

:P

h2g2Fan
01-24-2007, 09:13 PM
hahahahahahahahaha

Mobile Vulgus
01-24-2007, 09:59 PM
My head is throbbing...


You're just not used to thinking is all.

Betty
01-24-2007, 10:01 PM
This thread is done. Thank you, drive through. :nonono:

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