...A SMOKER!!!

I read in the Chicago Tribune that he's trying to quit...but is having a difficult time. How do all you libs feel about voting for a smoker?

A lot of libs smoke. Bill Clinton smokes (or smoked) cigars.

Lots of muslims are smokers and Hillery says he's a muslim too . Spent 4 years in muslim school in Indonesia compliments of the Saudis .

Shacking up muslim style .;)

A lot of libs smoke. Bill Clinton smokes (or smoked) cigars.Cigars have a different sort of connotation to them. Don't they? They're more sophisticated. Cigarettes are dirty.

Cigars have a different sort of connotation to them. Don't they?

No, not really.

They're more sophisticated. Cigarettes are dirty.

Smoking is smoking. It's all disgusting.

Smoking is smoking. It's all disgusting.It's not my bag. But, I do look differently at someone like Clinton who smoked cigars and another person who smokes cigs. Cigars can be like fine wines. Cigarettes are just trash. There are no cigarette aficianados.

Lots of muslims are smokers and Hillery says he's a muslim too . Spent 4 years in muslim school in Indonesia compliments of the Saudis .

You don't believe a damned thing Hillary says, yet you believe this? BTW, it's false. :) http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

Yeah, Obama is a "Christian" who supports killing unborn babies.

Cigars can be like fine wines. Cigarettes are just trash. There are no cigarette aficianados.

Cigarette smoke makes me want to cough up a lung. Cigar smoke makes me want to cough up a lung and puke out my guts. :P

I wouldn't mind seeing him smoking.

Cigarette smoke makes me want to cough up a lung. Cigar smoke makes me want to cough up a lung and puke out my guts. :PPersonal preference, I suppose.

Who gives a shit?

Who gives a shit?I do. He's supporting the EVIL tobacco companies.

I do. He's supporting the EVIL tobacco companies.

You do love a good strawman, dont you?

Wow. If he is straw, he really SHOULDN'T smoke!

He might catch on fire!!!

...this could be BIG!

I do. He's supporting the EVIL tobacco companies.

The entire Congress supports tobacco companies. It's a subsidized crop, and they vote to keep the subsidies in place year after year.

He's setting a bad example for the youth of America. :|

Bill Clinton smokes (or smoked) cigars.


I thought he just chewed and sucked on them a bit. :|

A lot of libs smoke. Bill Clinton smokes (or smoked) cigars.

There was another use he had for Cigars. Now let me see if I can remember.........?:D

...A SMOKER!!!

I read in the Chicago Tribune that he's trying to quit...but is having a difficult time. How do all you libs feel about voting for a smoker?

Well there's a new place he can't smoke!

WASHINGTON - Smokers may be one minority in Congress with even fewer rights than newly demoted Republicans. Now they are losing one of their last, cherished prerogatives — a smoke break in the ornate Speaker's Lobby just off the House floor.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi , D-Calif., announced a ban Wednesday, effective immediately.

Smoking is an addiction. Probably the worst one to kick and I for one admire anyone who has kicked the habit and support anyone who has the common sence to try to kick it. I have a friend, musician. who was a Junkie in his younger days and is a smoker. He tells me that kicking junk was far easier than giving up tabacco. After watching him try to quit smoking numerous times it appears he is right.

Smoking is an addiction. Probably the worst one to kick and I for one admire anyone who has kicked the habit and support anyone who has the common sence to try to kick it. I have a friend, musician. who was a Junkie in his younger days and is a smoker. He tells me that kicking junk was far easier than giving up tabacco. After watching him try to quit smoking numerous times it appears he is right.


I was never a junkie, but I have been on several different strong narcotic drugs at high doses for years (for severe pain).

I have quit smoking three times. Once for 9 years, once for about 1 1/2 years, and it's been 5 1/2 years since the last time, and I'm still smoke free, and intend to stay that way.

I always hear that tobacco is harder to kick than heroin. I've come off of morphine, dilaudid, methadone ( definitely the hardest, because of the way the drug builds up in the bloodstream and attaches to the body) and oxycodone, and I have to say, they were far worse to kick than nicotine. It's like having severe flu symptoms multiplied by 100 (give or take a few).

The physical addiction to nicotine lasts anywhere from 72 to 120 hours on average, depending upon the level of addiction. Once the physical part is broken, the rest is all psychological, and anyone who's willing to use their will power (which we all have, yet many don't use, or don't even realize that they have it) can get through that part of it if they actually WANT to stop. The will to stop is the key to beating any addiction

Opiates on the other hand can take up to 12 days for the physical addiction to break, and the psychological addiction can last anywhere from a few weeks to several years, depending upon the individual.

Again, the will to stop plays a huge role in breaking any addiction, and the notion that people are "powerless" to do it (as AA and NA teach) is pure bunk. Exercising the will to stop is the ONLY way to quit, and that's why 12 step programs have a 96% failure rate. Many people are doomed from the start because they're told to admit that they have no power to stop, and they start to believe it.

Both of these drugs create more receptors in the brain when they're used (nicotine and opiate recptors). The extra nicotine receptors go dormant relatively quickly, but opiate receptors take quite a bit longer, even after only a few weeks of regular use.

So, having gone through both, I would have to say that the nicotine habit is far easier to break than the opiate habit by far (at least, it was for me, and quite a few other folks that I know).

My Dad smoked for 54 years and quit, because his doctor told him he wouldn't last another 6 months if he continued, due to severe emphyzema which was getting worse by the day.

He never stopped craving cigarettes completely, and developed terminal lung cancer about 6 years after he quit, and died in less than two years. Watching him die from smoking convinced me that smoking is definitiely, as my dad told me "Not worth it". The 5 year survival rate of lung cancer is only about 10%, and death is ultimately caused by suffocation in most cases.

I quit about 4 months after his death and haven't smoked since. This time, I know I'll never start again, because the images of his suffering and death will never leave me. It's a horrible way to go, and completely avoidable.

Yeah, Obama is a "Christian" who supports killing unborn babies.

He's a christian who never goes to church . He's a christian in show only, like most . I think he;s a closet muslim . But it makes no difference to me what he is , I wouldn't vote for him or her .

He's a christian who never goes to church . He's a christian in show only, like most . I think he;s a closet muslim . But it makes no difference to me what he is , I wouldn't vote for him or her .

And how on earth do you know that, Pappy :rolleyes:

Do you camp out outside his house or something??

He's setting a bad example for the youth of America. :|
That is true!

So smoking is the biggest knock on Obama? And attending a madrassah when he was younger? And here I was thinking the criticisms of Obama were only *minor* (double gasp)

I just thought it was interesting because the Left likes to portray the tobacco companies as evil incarnate. They like to impose smoking bans in public places. And, they like to jack up taxes on cigarettes. You'd think folks like that would be more "pure". They wouldn't be sending their money to support those evil companies.

I'm a non-smoker, btw.

...A SMOKER!!!

I read in the Chicago Tribune that he's trying to quit...but is having a difficult time. How do all you libs feel about voting for a smoker?
I don't give a rats ass if he smokes, drinks or chases skirts.

I don't like Obama because he endorsed a fascist pig named Thomas Dart for Cook County Sherriff. I guess he was paying his dues for the Democrat party. All the same it rubbed me the wrong way.

Cigars have a different sort of connotation to them. Don't they? They're more sophisticated. Cigarettes are dirty.
Its easier to pleasure a woman with a cigar. Thats why Clinton smoked them.

Yeah, Obama is a "Christian" who supports killing unborn babies.
And Bush is a "Christian" who drops bombs on innocent people and kills them. He also killed innocent people while Governor of Texas. :hmm:

And Bush is a "Christian" who drops bombs on innocent people and kills them. He also killed innocent people while Governor of Texas. :hmm:
cant forget that he advocates the destruction of the earth and god's creatures in the pursuit of profit